Went with the S550 over the LS
01-26-08, 12:28 PM
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S550 AMG is no real AMG. It usually only means S550 with the AMG kit, which is an option worth a few thousand dollars on a S550.
The real AMG S-class sedans are the S63 & S65.
The real AMG S-class sedans are the S63 & S65.
01-26-08, 06:33 PM
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No one seems able to define " Status "
So how does one judge when it should be lost ??
There is no doubt that in 89 when the first LS came out that MB got one hell of a kick up the **** .
They hadn't been building as great a car as they could or should have been .
Personally I think that with the reliability problems MB have had since the first LS came along that they have " lost " their " Status "
Part of that status is being the best built car in the world and having awesome reliability , that is no longer the case , Lexus has been a better built car and way more reliable for many many years now and MB don't seem to be able to do anything about it ?
Notice that I used the word " Built " , I'm not talking about who or what is fastest or handles better or even looks better , this is about the quality of the build , how long can MB trade on it's past history ??
I would also say that MB in the bigger cars really had no one competing directly with them , the 7 series is not really a direct competitor for the bigger Merc's and no other brand was made in the same numbers , so to a certain degree it can be said that if you are the only one in the race then you must be the best by default !!
When the LS came along it showed MB how it should be done !!
Down with MB.....long live the new king !!
So how does one judge when it should be lost ??
There is no doubt that in 89 when the first LS came out that MB got one hell of a kick up the **** .
They hadn't been building as great a car as they could or should have been .
Personally I think that with the reliability problems MB have had since the first LS came along that they have " lost " their " Status "
Part of that status is being the best built car in the world and having awesome reliability , that is no longer the case , Lexus has been a better built car and way more reliable for many many years now and MB don't seem to be able to do anything about it ?
Notice that I used the word " Built " , I'm not talking about who or what is fastest or handles better or even looks better , this is about the quality of the build , how long can MB trade on it's past history ??
I would also say that MB in the bigger cars really had no one competing directly with them , the 7 series is not really a direct competitor for the bigger Merc's and no other brand was made in the same numbers , so to a certain degree it can be said that if you are the only one in the race then you must be the best by default !!
When the LS came along it showed MB how it should be done !!
Down with MB.....long live the new king !!
01-26-08, 10:10 PM
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one word to answer ur question STATUS. either u have it or u dont. S550 definately has it. also I dont buy cars for others I buy it for myself, for my satisfaction.
Rest assured I think the S550 is a terrific car. It's the car my brother purchased when he moved to California recently for his new position. I think it's great. However, I just don't buy the "higher status" argument for considering mercedes to be above lexus anymore. As a previous Mercedes owner, though, I do think Mercedes trumps lexus in a few key technical areas and falters in a few others.
01-26-08, 10:57 PM
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No one seems able to define " Status "
So how does one judge when it should be lost ??
There is no doubt that in 89 when the first LS came out that MB got one hell of a kick up the **** .
They hadn't been building as great a car as they could or should have been .
Personally I think that with the reliability problems MB have had since the first LS came along that they have " lost " their " Status "
Part of that status is being the best built car in the world and having awesome reliability , that is no longer the case , Lexus has been a better built car and way more reliable for many many years now and MB don't seem to be able to do anything about it ?
Notice that I used the word " Built " , I'm not talking about who or what is fastest or handles better or even looks better , this is about the quality of the build , how long can MB trade on it's past history ??
I would also say that MB in the bigger cars really had no one competing directly with them , the 7 series is not really a direct competitor for the bigger Merc's and no other brand was made in the same numbers , so to a certain degree it can be said that if you are the only one in the race then you must be the best by default !!
When the LS came along it showed MB how it should be done !!
Down with MB.....long live the new king !!
So how does one judge when it should be lost ??
There is no doubt that in 89 when the first LS came out that MB got one hell of a kick up the **** .
They hadn't been building as great a car as they could or should have been .
Personally I think that with the reliability problems MB have had since the first LS came along that they have " lost " their " Status "
Part of that status is being the best built car in the world and having awesome reliability , that is no longer the case , Lexus has been a better built car and way more reliable for many many years now and MB don't seem to be able to do anything about it ?
Notice that I used the word " Built " , I'm not talking about who or what is fastest or handles better or even looks better , this is about the quality of the build , how long can MB trade on it's past history ??
I would also say that MB in the bigger cars really had no one competing directly with them , the 7 series is not really a direct competitor for the bigger Merc's and no other brand was made in the same numbers , so to a certain degree it can be said that if you are the only one in the race then you must be the best by default !!
When the LS came along it showed MB how it should be done !!
Down with MB.....long live the new king !!
hey is my sig not visible,I own 2 lexus cars. reliability wise nobody could beat lexus. hands down. Gadget wise Lexus, but design wise u have to admit MB did a fantafaboulous job on the S550. even though they rank low on reliability, imho it still holds its own in a crowd. STATUS QUE
Give Credit Where Credit Is Due
Down With MB...R U 4 REAL
01-27-08, 08:11 PM
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i currently own a couple of lexus and couple of mb. personally, if u bought the ones build with no problem, then its a great car, no matter if its a lexus or a mb.
as for the status issue, well, i am chinese and in my culture majority of the time, they think bimmer and mbz are always the best.... dont know why, but they just think that. they think if you drive it, then you are rich and have higher status, no matter if you own a 08 LS600L which cost over 100k, they will always think its a lexus, not a mbz or bimmer....
enough said, i am going for more drinks...
as for the status issue, well, i am chinese and in my culture majority of the time, they think bimmer and mbz are always the best.... dont know why, but they just think that. they think if you drive it, then you are rich and have higher status, no matter if you own a 08 LS600L which cost over 100k, they will always think its a lexus, not a mbz or bimmer....
enough said, i am going for more drinks...
01-27-08, 09:14 PM
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i currently own a couple of lexus and couple of mb. personally, if u bought the ones build with no problem, then its a great car, no matter if its a lexus or a mb.
as for the status issue, well, i am chinese and in my culture majority of the time, they think bimmer and mbz are always the best.... dont know why, but they just think that. they think if you drive it, then you are rich and have higher status, no matter if you own a 08 LS600L which cost over 100k, they will always think its a lexus, not a mbz or bimmer....
enough said, i am going for more drinks...
as for the status issue, well, i am chinese and in my culture majority of the time, they think bimmer and mbz are always the best.... dont know why, but they just think that. they think if you drive it, then you are rich and have higher status, no matter if you own a 08 LS600L which cost over 100k, they will always think its a lexus, not a mbz or bimmer....
enough said, i am going for more drinks...
here i still see some people with that kind of mindset, but i do see tons of them doing lexus as the "new blood trend"
01-27-08, 10:57 PM
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anywaz, not here to argue but rather just pointing out some things i have noticed... mayb its just my relatives/ families/ friends/ neightbors that judges, but, the most important thing is you chose to purchase the car because you loved it.