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Old 05-08-08, 02:09 PM
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I live in Vancouver, BC. Sorry, a few math errors, it's only $5.18.

Using Google:

1 Gallon = 3.72257394 Liters
$1 CAD = $0.9834 USD

1L of 92 Octane = $1.415 CAD

Therefore 1 Gallon of 92 Octane = $5.18 USD.

Pass the back bacon.
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Originally Posted by vanlex
I live in Vancouver, BC. Sorry, a few math errors, it's only $5.18.

Using Google:

1 Gallon = 3.72257394 Liters
$1 CAD = $0.9834 USD

1L of 92 Octane = $1.415 CAD

Therefore 1 Gallon of 92 Octane = $5.18 USD.

Pass the back bacon.
Yeah but you get free healthcare as part of your $5.18. I'm looking at $20,000 per year for family coverage.
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I do suspect that continuing to by merely 87 octane will eventually lead to pinging and sluggishness. But so far that is not the case. I'll let the experiment run for 2 or 3 more tankfuls and see what happens.
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Default Low Octane + High performance Engine = Ping

These days, I fill up in Washington State at Costco in Bellingham. Yesterday, the price was $3.89 per US Gallon (91). If I divide that figure by 3.785, my per litre cost is $1.027. The cost premium gas (92) at Costco in Port Coquitlam (Vancouver) today was $1.31. A complete fill-up at 80 litres would thus save about $23, making the drive to Bellingham cost effective, for me anyway.

I have found that going below the recommended Octane number is OK for the short term, but over a longer period, pinging starts to become apparent, especially if the car is subjected to hills or a heavy foot.

Vanlex, 1 US Gallon = 3.785 litres
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Originally Posted by Burnaby
These days, I fill up in Washington State at Costco in Bellingham. Yesterday, the price was $3.89 per US Gallon (91). If I divide that figure by 3.85, my per litre cost is $1.01. The cost premium gas (92) at Costco in Port Coquitlam (Vancouver) today was $1.31. A complete fill-up at 80 litres would thus save $24, making the drive to Bellingham cost effective, for me anyway.

I have found that going below the recommended Octane number is OK for the short term, but over a longer period, pinging starts to become apparent, especially if the car is subjected to hills or a heavy foot.
I work out in Abbotsford fairly regularly, which is not part of the Metro Vancouver region and thereby not subject to their transportation tax. The swing can approach $0.10 per liter at times. That helps...I top up there whenever possible but this time around I was running on fumes in Vancouver and paid the piper here.
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Originally Posted by vanlex
I work out in Abbotsford fairly regularly, which is not part of the Metro Vancouver region and thereby not subject to their transportation tax of $0.08 per liter. That helps...I top up there whenever possible but this time around I was running on fumes in Vancouver and paid the piper here.
Ah... that makes more sense. And... if you're out there, the Sumas crossing is very close by, but I think the small gas stations there may have higher prices than Costco. Might be worth checking anyway...
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Originally Posted by daryll40
Yeah but you get free healthcare as part of your $5.18. I'm looking at $20,000 per year for family coverage.
Canada has some fairly stout taxes too, but let's not start.
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I won't let this become political, but will have the final word...and that is that you correctly point out that if we American's think healthcare is expensive NOW, wait till it's free!
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Originally Posted by daryll40
Yeah but you get free healthcare as part of your $5.18. I'm looking at $20,000 per year for family coverage.
$20,000 for healthcare? I sell health insurance down here in SC, and either you've got some really incredible benefits, you're exagerating, you have some health issues and can't move to another plan, or you need to move to another state. Heck...if nothing else....switch to an HSA plan and put the difference in the savings part of the HSA account.
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move to canada.
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Originally Posted by clemgrad85
$20,000 for healthcare? I sell health insurance down here in SC, and either you've got some really incredible benefits, you're exagerating, you have some health issues and can't move to another plan, or you need to move to another state. Heck...if nothing else....switch to an HSA plan and put the difference in the savings part of the HSA account.
he said he has 5 kids and 2 wives, i think he said something about a compound...
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In all seriousness, the family plan "good" insurance is $1500/month. So maybe $20K was a SLIGHT overstatement, but not too far from it.
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
he said he has 5 kids and 2 wives, i think he said something about a compound...
That's it? That borders on celibacy to me...

Yeah, move to Canada; at least we're all poor up here...
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daryll40, you must be driving differently than me. I get an average (mixed driving) of 22.x for the last 15,000 miles in Pittsburgh. I do use 93.

Also, I have read that the weight of the 87 and 93 are different so when you fill you really aren't getting a perfect blend. It is more split than you think.
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22+MPG in Pittsburgh? I can't see that as possible UNLESS you are really doing mostly highway driving and just don't realize it. If so, however, more power to you!

Can you better explain your comment about the "weights" of 87 and 93 and the split. I've always understood that the underground tanks are either 87 or 93 and for the folks buying "midgrade" it's a mix (yet one that benefits the oil companies since you are only getting 89 but paying for 90 as halfway between). What's the difference if the mix occurs at the pump or after the pump, in my tank?


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