boxcarfan

i hope you guys with the 600h dont keep it for long...cause when bank one or bank 2 a/f sensors go bad it will cost about 2000 dollars to put that sucker in...gotta drop the engine.

Gojirra99

Shouldn't that be covered under the extended warranty?
Even though I have the 460L & not the 600hL, I got mine extended to 6 years bumper to bumper for about C$2k.

Nospinzone

...it will cost about 2000 dollars to put that sucker in...

So about the cost of a 30,000 mile service.

boxcarfan

this is FUN! lol

Johnny

Bah, what's another $2K between friends?

boxcarfan

honestly, it IS the worst design i have ever seen to work on a car. hybrids are only a stepping stone, nothing more. and with a hybrid you have problems of a gas eng. and problems of an ele. car. its only a stepping stone.

Johnny

All kidding aside, what were the circumstances that gave rise to this problem?

Are we talking about the O2 sensor?

Is this a Warranty Replacement?

What was the mileage on the vehicle?

Does Lexus think this is a one-off anomaly?

What is the expected life for this item (MTBF)?

boxcarfan

lol no, in Charleston here, when it rains it floods...guy works on the navy base and drove his car thur water, eng locked up put 3 holes in the block and cracked the diff. cause the rod came out and smacked it lol.

LS 600hL long block-$20,500

encore888

Ouch, reminds me of the GS 450h thread we had a while back, also someone who drove his car through a flood, and the engine locked up. IIRC there wasn't a followup posted.

Johnny

I'll just have to avoid driving through huge puddles in severe rainfalls, as we do get our share here in the NW.

boxcarfan

please do. this is NOT fun AT ALL! and it only pays like 40 hours. it sucks.

luxury1

This is definitely the problem with hybrids. They are more expensive up front and in the long run (at least for now).

Johnny

I don't know lux, the affected areas are not necessarily confined to Hybrids.

The Hybrid function is mainly situated within the transmission envelope, which in this case does not appear to be affected, except for the transfer case it seems; the engine locking up, holes in the block are also similar 460 areas. Avoiding puddles should be a given with aluminum blocks anyway, as unlike more stable cast iron designs, aluminum is more prone to thermal stress failures (i.e. going from hot to cold in a "splash").

So, even though a 460 hasn't experienced a similar misadventure, it is still prudent to "driver beware".