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05-02-10, 05:02 PM
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04-06 are the same when compared with the same trim levels
-Premium
-Modern Luxury
-Sport Edition (Same as ML w/ sport suspension)
-Custom Luxury
-Ultra Luxury (Top of the trim line)
Only reason to go with an 06 is it is younger or has less miles but you can find 04-05 with low miles as well.
-Premium
-Modern Luxury
-Sport Edition (Same as ML w/ sport suspension)
-Custom Luxury
-Ultra Luxury (Top of the trim line)
Only reason to go with an 06 is it is younger or has less miles but you can find 04-05 with low miles as well.
I know some people are biased towards one or the other. If I did go for the 430, I would want to get the "hottest" color combo. The interior would have to be black but I usually go with silver exteriors for easier maintenance. For a LS 430, maybe black would be "badder" or hotter looking without being ostentatious.
Cheers,
Steve R
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05-02-10, 05:51 PM
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in order not to hi-jack the OP's thread, start a new thread in the 430 section and I can along with other owners can help you with 430 only questions.
in order not to hi-jack the OP's thread, start a new thread in the 430 section and I can along with other owners can help you with 430 only questions.
05-02-10, 06:02 PM
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I have been researching as well, my source told me that there was a big batch of lease return just got sold at the Manheim auction in Mass in the last 30 days for a around $31k-$33k. Not sure how much mark up they will try to have but I'm sure we definately have the upper hand due to the region and economy.
i'm just disappointed that most of them i find dont have power door closers and other fun features. it really sucks, it's like a glorified camry.
05-02-10, 06:33 PM
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i compiled a list of pretty much only FLORIDA ls460's, 2007 and 2008 that have been sold at manheim for april.. it's annoying, i checked some other states and it is not nearly as much anywhere else, florida definitely has the most (makes me feel like i want a geezers car)
i sort of dont want to post it so lexus people dont read it and keep the prices up as i low ball. oh well, if they dont give me the deal i wont get the car.
these are post-sale results in orlando and ft lauderdale, seems like orlando has the most...
2007 LEXUS LS460 BURG. 4 8 Gas A Y B SR L 70,831 $31,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 36,816 $33,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 26,693 $42,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 DK BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR V 34,477 $38,200
2008 LEXUS LS460 WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 16,163 $44,000
2008 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 29,568 $49,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 70,377 $30,800
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 43,908 $34,900
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 65,950 $30,800
2007 LEXUS LS460 PEARL 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 19,896 $37,000
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 15,365 $37,600
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 32,731 $34,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L RED 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 43,818 $38,100
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,723 $40,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 39,852 $35,800
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 48,713 $38,000
2009 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y Tape SR L 37,315 $44,400
2007 LEXUS LS460 GREEN 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,098 $35,000
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,605 $35,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,474 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE Black S 8 C A A N SR L 31,825 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE White S 8 C A A N SR L 38,340 $37,100
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 44,857 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460L RED 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 45,863 $39,100
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE Green S 8 C A A N SR L 57,144 $31,300
2008 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 34,097 $42,100
2008 LEXUS LS460 ONYX 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 5,094 $42,600
2008 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,567 $39,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 MAROON 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 8,291 $45,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 OYNX 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,778 $37,900
2007 LEXUS LS460 WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 52,666 $36,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 GOLD 4 8 Gas A Y N SR L 22,334 $36,700
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 31,092 $36,800
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 67,944 $36,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 40,116 $39,400
2007 LEXUS LS460L GOLD 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,239 $39,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 15,066 $46,400
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,813 $41,500
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,880 $38,400
2008 LEXUS LS460 GREY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 46,104 $37,400
007 LEXUS LS460L CHAMP 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,230 $40,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 21,256 $44,000
i sort of dont want to post it so lexus people dont read it and keep the prices up as i low ball. oh well, if they dont give me the deal i wont get the car.
these are post-sale results in orlando and ft lauderdale, seems like orlando has the most...
2007 LEXUS LS460 BURG. 4 8 Gas A Y B SR L 70,831 $31,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 36,816 $33,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 26,693 $42,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 DK BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR V 34,477 $38,200
2008 LEXUS LS460 WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 16,163 $44,000
2008 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 29,568 $49,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 70,377 $30,800
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A 2 Y CD SR L 43,908 $34,900
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 65,950 $30,800
2007 LEXUS LS460 PEARL 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 19,896 $37,000
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 15,365 $37,600
2007 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 32,731 $34,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L RED 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 43,818 $38,100
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,723 $40,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 39,852 $35,800
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 48,713 $38,000
2009 LEXUS LS460 BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y Tape SR L 37,315 $44,400
2007 LEXUS LS460 GREEN 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,098 $35,000
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,605 $35,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,474 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE Black S 8 C A A N SR L 31,825 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE White S 8 C A A N SR L 38,340 $37,100
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 44,857 $36,200
2007 LEXUS LS460L RED 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 45,863 $39,100
2007 LEXUS LS460 NONE Green S 8 C A A N SR L 57,144 $31,300
2008 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 34,097 $42,100
2008 LEXUS LS460 ONYX 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 5,094 $42,600
2008 LEXUS LS460 SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,567 $39,500
2008 LEXUS LS460 MAROON 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 8,291 $45,200
2007 LEXUS LS460 OYNX 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,778 $37,900
2007 LEXUS LS460 WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 52,666 $36,500
2007 LEXUS LS460 GOLD 4 8 Gas A Y N SR L 22,334 $36,700
2007 LEXUS LS460 GRAY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 31,092 $36,800
2007 LEXUS LS460L SILVER 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 67,944 $36,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 40,116 $39,400
2007 LEXUS LS460L GOLD 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,239 $39,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L WHITE 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 15,066 $46,400
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 28,813 $41,500
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 27,880 $38,400
2008 LEXUS LS460 GREY 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 46,104 $37,400
007 LEXUS LS460L CHAMP 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 38,230 $40,000
2007 LEXUS LS460L BLACK 4 8 Gas A Y CD SR L 21,256 $44,000
05-02-10, 06:54 PM
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, who actually ask me to get a new car; I wonder if I'm over due.
I am hanging on to every word written in this post. Thanks for starting this thread. I have done lots of searches on CL and have come up with some great information. I'm in the market for an 07 LS 460 too but would have sell 2 older German cars of mine to get it. I long for a reliable car on one hand, but I'd miss the diversity of having two totally different cars (96 911 and 01 BMW 740i).
Good luck with your decision. If there was an Enterprise rental car place that I could just rent an LS 460 for 2 days I'd do it! I don't want to even ask a Lexus dealer to do this for me, I doubt they would in the first place (lend me one for a day) and even if they would, I don't want to feel obligated to them for the huge favor.
I can't tell if I want a "new" car unless I have some serious seat time in it. I guess that means I'm not totally sold on getting it yet, as well. I keep looking at the LS 430's too, 04's to 06's. I can't tell what the difference is between these 3 years. I don't really see much cosmetic difference either on them. Why would someone get the more expensive 06 if the 04 is exactly the same car, wheels and all? Or is there something, anything different?
Sorry to stray from your great topic. Just wondering. Thanks!
Good luck with your decision. If there was an Enterprise rental car place that I could just rent an LS 460 for 2 days I'd do it! I don't want to even ask a Lexus dealer to do this for me, I doubt they would in the first place (lend me one for a day) and even if they would, I don't want to feel obligated to them for the huge favor.
I can't tell if I want a "new" car unless I have some serious seat time in it. I guess that means I'm not totally sold on getting it yet, as well. I keep looking at the LS 430's too, 04's to 06's. I can't tell what the difference is between these 3 years. I don't really see much cosmetic difference either on them. Why would someone get the more expensive 06 if the 04 is exactly the same car, wheels and all? Or is there something, anything different?
Sorry to stray from your great topic. Just wondering. Thanks!
Btw, as far as a for a great car, I don't think you will be disappoint in the LS430. If you unsure about its handling quality, there's always afteramrket upgrade that can take care of that.
05-02-10, 07:07 PM
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It seem like we have the better pricing up here in NorthEast, it properly will be even less in the winter time.
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $25,000 38,071 Below CHARCOAL 8G A No
04/21/10 NADE Lease $28,500 66,244 Below GRANITE 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $29,000 63,207 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
04/28/10 NADE Regular $30,000 71,859 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $30,500 58,884 Below GREEN 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $30,750 30,275 Below GREYMET 8G A No
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $31,000 48,134 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
04/14/10 NADE Lease $31,000 33,938 Below GREY 8G A No
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $31,200 45,101 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $31,250 67,743 Below GREEN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 NADE Lease $31,500 57,834 Below BLUE 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,250 53,584 Avg GREYMET 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $32,400 43,825 Avg GOLD 8G A Yes
04/27/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 43,414 Avg GREY 8G P Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $32,500 49,545 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 29,356 Avg GRAY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 45,100 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 36,586 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,000 31,501 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,000 36,019 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,200 44,980 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,500 26,283 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $33,700 54,188 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,750 32,759 Avg PEARL 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $33,900 47,913 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/19/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,000 33,419 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $34,000 22,694 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,000 35,253 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $34,250 76,906 Avg TAN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,300 45,113 Avg SLVR 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,000 24,334 Avg BLACK 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,200 29,905 Avg MAROON 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,250 36,436 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,500 36,976 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $35,750 56,920 Avg P/WHITE 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $35,900 38,402 Avg PEARL 8G Yes
04/30/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 25,610 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 24,309 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 21,974 Avg BLACK 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 16,239 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/21/10 NADE Lease $36,500 21,077 Avg RED 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 29,825 Avg DK GRAY 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 44,992 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,000 22,362 Avg BLUE 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 27,815 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,300 36,752 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,600 34,784 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,850 53,000 Above WHITE 8G A No
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,900 26,677 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $38,000 25,347 Above RED 8G A Yes
04/19/10 MANHEIM Lease $38,000 25,290 Above GREEN 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $25,000 38,071 Below CHARCOAL 8G A No
04/21/10 NADE Lease $28,500 66,244 Below GRANITE 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $29,000 63,207 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
04/28/10 NADE Regular $30,000 71,859 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $30,500 58,884 Below GREEN 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $30,750 30,275 Below GREYMET 8G A No
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $31,000 48,134 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
04/14/10 NADE Lease $31,000 33,938 Below GREY 8G A No
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $31,200 45,101 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $31,250 67,743 Below GREEN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 NADE Lease $31,500 57,834 Below BLUE 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,250 53,584 Avg GREYMET 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $32,400 43,825 Avg GOLD 8G A Yes
04/27/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 43,414 Avg GREY 8G P Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $32,500 49,545 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 29,356 Avg GRAY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 45,100 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $32,500 36,586 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,000 31,501 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,000 36,019 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,200 44,980 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,500 26,283 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $33,700 54,188 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $33,750 32,759 Avg PEARL 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $33,900 47,913 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/19/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,000 33,419 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $34,000 22,694 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,000 35,253 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $34,250 76,906 Avg TAN 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $34,300 45,113 Avg SLVR 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,000 24,334 Avg BLACK 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,200 29,905 Avg MAROON 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,250 36,436 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $35,500 36,976 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $35,750 56,920 Avg P/WHITE 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $35,900 38,402 Avg PEARL 8G Yes
04/30/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 25,610 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 24,309 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 21,974 Avg BLACK 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Lease $36,000 16,239 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/21/10 NADE Lease $36,500 21,077 Avg RED 8G O Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 29,825 Avg DK GRAY 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 44,992 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/16/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,000 22,362 Avg BLUE 8G P Yes
04/15/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,000 27,815 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,300 36,752 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,600 34,784 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
04/23/10 MANHEIM Regular $37,850 53,000 Above WHITE 8G A No
04/26/10 MANHEIM Lease $37,900 26,677 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
04/29/10 MANHEIM Lease $38,000 25,347 Above RED 8G A Yes
04/19/10 MANHEIM Lease $38,000 25,290 Above GREEN 8G A Yes
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05-04-10, 08:18 PM
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We currently have an '04 430 and an '09 460. The 460 is a great car, but it is not a revolutionary change. In fact there are many areas where the 430 seems more refined (thicker sheet metal, interior trim quality, quieter engine, etc). At $10K you have a far better car than others selling for similar prices.
05-04-10, 08:51 PM
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electro made a great point, sounds like the reviews on the LS460 are mixed amongst Lexus owners and those who actually support Lexus. Part of the reason I havent jumped on the LS460 purchasing line myself. Im amazed at how many LS loyalist as well as Lexus loyalist have said the car isn't much better after trading or upgrading to the LS460.
Of course there are SEVERAL who left the LS430 for the LS460 and LOVE it. Im a bit concerned about the direction LEXUS is going in. The wind noise issue has gone on much to long. Lexus has been a one year issue next year fixed car company!!! To have not addressed this issue shows me that LEXUS is developing some of the arrogance I saw in Benz and BMW as well as Jag before they allowed Lexus in the game and Lexus went on to take a chunk out of the classic luxury models shares!!
Electro has the right idea. As I drive my LS I say why not go get a 2005/2006 for much less while keeping the reliable model we have in the 2001-2006 range and wait for the next LS update. Its maybe 3-4 years away anyway!!! L.G.N.M
Of course there are SEVERAL who left the LS430 for the LS460 and LOVE it. Im a bit concerned about the direction LEXUS is going in. The wind noise issue has gone on much to long. Lexus has been a one year issue next year fixed car company!!! To have not addressed this issue shows me that LEXUS is developing some of the arrogance I saw in Benz and BMW as well as Jag before they allowed Lexus in the game and Lexus went on to take a chunk out of the classic luxury models shares!!
Electro has the right idea. As I drive my LS I say why not go get a 2005/2006 for much less while keeping the reliable model we have in the 2001-2006 range and wait for the next LS update. Its maybe 3-4 years away anyway!!! L.G.N.M
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