Toyota recalls LS, other models for valve spring replacement
07-04-10, 06:10 PM
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Yeah, that's what I meant!!!
07-05-10, 09:12 AM
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07-05-10, 09:56 AM
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I asked the dealership today if the recall also includes me (since I've imported the car from the US and am not covered by the local dealer's warranty), and they told me that the recall was originally for the American LS460's as they are the ones that are suspected to be affected more than the Saudi-specs LS460's.
He told me the work will be covered by mother Lexus and I will be paying nil $ for it
. I was told to bring it on the 1st of August.
I should note that 8 months ago the very dealership refused to even change the engine oil for me since they "can't touch an American LS460."
He told me the work will be covered by mother Lexus and I will be paying nil $ for it
. I was told to bring it on the 1st of August.I should note that 8 months ago the very dealership refused to even change the engine oil for me since they "can't touch an American LS460."
07-05-10, 11:56 AM
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07-05-10, 12:01 PM
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Some details on the procedure, seems invasive for V8 vs. V6:
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/pos...osselman/888/1
Considering the chance of failure is 0.2%, sometimes I'd consider the cost-benefit of having them do such work 'to be sure'. As others have mentioned, some other manufacturers would probably just let the issue slide and not recall.
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/pos...osselman/888/1
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Spring time in Lexus land
July 05, 2010
The chances of this happening are slim, but Lexus has still decided to replace the faulty components - a major and expensive undertaking.
Further, the brand has decided it's a task reserved for its most talented mechanics, the so-called Lexus Master technicians who have received special training.
Conceivably, this means a big workload lays ahead for the handful of accredited ace spanner-spinners in New Zealand.
Over the next few months they'll have to replace the springs in every engine of 185 cars. Since these are quad cam engines, with four valves per cylinder - it's a big count. With 24 springs in the V6, and 32 in the V8, it's a minimum tally of 4400.
And while initial comment from Lexus NZ might have left the impression that replacing them was but the work of a moment, reality is somewhat different.
According to estimates from Toyota New Zealand, the V6 rework is a nine-hour job. Sounds awful? Hey, it's a cinch compared to the 4.6-litre V8 job. That's estimated to be a full 22 hour surgery, basically three working days' toil.
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
[...]
While no issues have been reported here, and the chances of the issue arising was remote, the brand wants to be confident no future problems will occur.
Patullo did not respond to my inquiry about when the work will begin, but a spokesman at TNZ says the plan of attack is already being worked on.
"We have had one of our top techs here at TNZ attend a specialised course in Japan to ensure we have total competency," said Paul Carroll, who in the past has spoken about other Toyota recalls.
Spring time in Lexus land
July 05, 2010
The chances of this happening are slim, but Lexus has still decided to replace the faulty components - a major and expensive undertaking.
Further, the brand has decided it's a task reserved for its most talented mechanics, the so-called Lexus Master technicians who have received special training.
Conceivably, this means a big workload lays ahead for the handful of accredited ace spanner-spinners in New Zealand.
Over the next few months they'll have to replace the springs in every engine of 185 cars. Since these are quad cam engines, with four valves per cylinder - it's a big count. With 24 springs in the V6, and 32 in the V8, it's a minimum tally of 4400.
And while initial comment from Lexus NZ might have left the impression that replacing them was but the work of a moment, reality is somewhat different.
According to estimates from Toyota New Zealand, the V6 rework is a nine-hour job. Sounds awful? Hey, it's a cinch compared to the 4.6-litre V8 job. That's estimated to be a full 22 hour surgery, basically three working days' toil.
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
[...]
While no issues have been reported here, and the chances of the issue arising was remote, the brand wants to be confident no future problems will occur.
Patullo did not respond to my inquiry about when the work will begin, but a spokesman at TNZ says the plan of attack is already being worked on.
"We have had one of our top techs here at TNZ attend a specialised course in Japan to ensure we have total competency," said Paul Carroll, who in the past has spoken about other Toyota recalls.
07-05-10, 12:25 PM
#52
QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS POST (#51):
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
END QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/user/maxseek
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
END QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/user/maxseek
07-05-10, 12:46 PM
#53
QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS POST (#51):
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
END QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/user/maxseek
Part of the eight-pot nightmare is that, whereas the V6 can be operated on in situ, the big boy mill must be completed removed from the car to allow full disassembly.
END QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com/user/maxseek
07-05-10, 01:45 PM
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Some details on the procedure, seems invasive for V8 vs. V6:
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/pos...osselman/888/1
Considering the chance of failure is 0.2%, sometimes I'd consider the cost-benefit of having them do such work 'to be sure'. As others have mentioned, some other manufacturers would probably just let the issue slide and not recall.
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/pos...osselman/888/1
Considering the chance of failure is 0.2%, sometimes I'd consider the cost-benefit of having them do such work 'to be sure'. As others have mentioned, some other manufacturers would probably just let the issue slide and not recall.
I know the dealers are getting a little "tired" of these recalls.
The techs will all need vacations!
07-05-10, 07:33 PM
#55
logged into Lexus owers link tonight they have posted this
http://www.lexus.com/recall/#hs3RecallSection
same info most have seen, seems like only within 07 (some date tbd) and 08s and interesting that the LS 600h L is on here. I thought the 600s were not part of this?
3 days worth of work. Why do I get the feeling that the engine will never be the same after looking at how much they have to tear out to get at the valves.. If they replace the springs, would they also have to replace the actual valves too?
http://www.lexus.com/recall/#hs3RecallSection
same info most have seen, seems like only within 07 (some date tbd) and 08s and interesting that the LS 600h L is on here. I thought the 600s were not part of this?
3 days worth of work. Why do I get the feeling that the engine will never be the same after looking at how much they have to tear out to get at the valves.. If they replace the springs, would they also have to replace the actual valves too?
Last edited by cmasten; 07-05-10 at 07:36 PM.
07-06-10, 01:13 AM
#57
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I got the call today, my car will have to go under the knife. Not really concerned about it and I am not really worried if they were to do it or not, but it is going to happen so it is fine for me either way.
07-06-10, 03:24 AM
#58
Instructor
WOW, I just opened up my twitter account and looked at some local and national news and all I see is that Toyota knew about this problem about 2 years ago. Im supposed to be picking up my 07 in a couple of days. Should I be concerned at all about his recall and just take my time taking the car in or tell the dealer that Im dealing with to handle it before I take delivery of the car?
07-06-10, 05:28 AM
#59
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Calm down guys. They'll fix the cars perfectly. In the meantime, you'll get a loaner car, my dealer have RX350s and the new hybrid car....plan a little trip with free miles on Lexus!
07-06-10, 07:00 AM
#60
This is not a good situation for Lexus or any potential resale.
I will however probably wait for at least a year until the hysteria dies down and the tech's garner LOTS of experience.