up4speed

Hi Guys, I just changed the oil on my LS460L. I drained the oil, replaced the filter and re-filled it with 9 quarts to begin with (I know it is supposed to take 9.1 quarts according to the owners manual). I figured I can just top off the remaining after it was run a little. Well, I just checked it and it looks a little HIGH on the dip stick!! How can this be? The manual says that the low mark to the high mark is about 1.6 quarts, so using that scale, it looks like I may be about 1/2 quart too high. What is going on?, should I drain a little out?

cmasten

when you changed your oil was the vehicle on level ground and are you certain that all of the old oil was drained out? If you have since run the vehicle let it settle on level ground for about an hour and then check it again. You could drain a small amount at the filter with the release on the housing end, but I would guess that its at where it should be and your reading is just a bit off for maybe the above reasons. If you didnt get all the oil out that would explain it also. I dont think a half a quart high is going to break anything though.

up4speed

I definitely changed the oil on level ground. It was on a lift. I let the oil drain for about 10 minutes. Maybe 10 minutes wasn't enough? There was still a small drip when I was done. Should I have waited until there was zero oil coming out? I ran it for at least 10 miles and let it sit for at least 4 hours and I'm still getting the same reading I was getting after I changed it. I guess I'll drain a little tomorrow and get it to the high line.

JFNash

Don't quote me, but I read somewhere that too much oil is as bad as too little.

I've seen the mechanic who does oil change on my LS460 do the following: He lifts the car up, drains the oil for about 12 - 15 minutes, removes the filter, cleans the filter house, puts the filter house with the new filter installed back in place, lets down the car on ground, pours in 8 bottles of oil (1 liter each), switches the engine on for half a minute, checks the oil level, adds more oil, checks again, adds a little more and so forth. He doesn't settle until he sees the oil level on the high mark. That usually takes 8.5L or so (we use liter instead of quart as a unit to measure oil volume).

cmasten

that is strange but like JFNash is speaking to, maybe just dropping in 8 quarts next time and then running the engine, and adding in only what it needs to top it off is in order. to take a half a quart out you could easily do this at the filter housing

up4speed

Yep that was my plan. Thanks, I'm going to drain just do 8 quarts and top off. I decided to do it that way after I read that it was 1.6 quarts from low line to top line, so it's totally safe. Heading out now to drain the excess just to be safe. I'm sure 1/2 quart high is ok, but I'm **** like that and I have to fix it.

rominl

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that seems to be the standard procedure on how to do it from what notice

up4speed

OK, all done, I feel better now. By the way do you guys find the dipstick very hard to get an accurate reading? I can somewhat see the high line, but then there is a little smudge above that, but there is no distinct line like some other cars.

cmasten

mine is exactly like that, it takes a bit of practice to read it.

up4speed

So where is the proper level? is it the highest point that I see oil, or is it the highest solid oil mark, or somewhere in between? I would have to guess the highest solid mark.

bsl888

The dipstick is hard to read. Sometimes I leave the dipstick out for a few minutes, then place the dipstick back, follow by pulling out in one smooth motion to get a clean reading. Most of the time I go by the highest solid oil mark. I have a V6 4Runner also, and that dipstick is even harder to read. Must be a Toyota thing.

cmasten

mine will consistently give me a long oil line on one side (usually an inch or two higher than the high oil mark) and an actual oil level on the other. I take the highest solid line that sits in between the low and high level markings. My guess is that its sits in there such that the actual oil level is on the top side and the other side is underneath, so when you pull it out, it smears on the bottom, but the top is allowing the oil to show you the actual level, total guess here, but seems to make sense as that is exactly what I see inserting it one way and then 180 degrees the other.

Take your dip stick and clean it off well, do this several times and then insert it 180 reversed and you will see what I mean, assuming of course I have not just confused you more :-)

up4speed

Got it, I'll try that. Thanks

cmasten

I just looked at my oil stick and to clarify there are two holes that are punched through the stick, so no markings on one side, what each side looks like is the same as what I was describing above. There should be a good edge to the oil level on one side and the other will be all smeared. if you wipe it off several times you will begin to see this more clearly. Hope that helps