Poor Traction in Snow
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Bought my 2008 LS460 a few months back. Over last week have had a chance to drive it in the snow. I've had real difficulty driving. Going up small inclines has been difficult. Driving straight done a road, car tends to spin and slide out alot.
Have had snow swith on but doesn't help much. Have thought i would get stuck many many times so far.
Is there a trick to these LS460's or do i just need really good snow tires.
Current tires only have 15,000 miles on them.
any advice would be appreciated.
Have had snow swith on but doesn't help much. Have thought i would get stuck many many times so far.
Is there a trick to these LS460's or do i just need really good snow tires.
Current tires only have 15,000 miles on them.
any advice would be appreciated.
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rear wheel drive cars and snow is rarely a good mix without solid good snow tires. For more extreme climates, studded snows are even better. Some all season tires are ok, but when it comes to snow and ice, snow tires are a must. I have been in plenty of cold climates..which is why i moved to the south lol.
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You need really good snow tires. I've used Blizzaks and Artic Alpins on my wife's rear drive cars and they work great. As for tricks, it would be a good idea to put as much weight as you can in the trunk.
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Not sure how effective it is yet, but I've used the 'snow' ect mode , which I believe starts in a higher gear ( 2 or 3 versus 1st) and mellows out the shift points ... so far , i've been OK in light snow/slush w/ All Seasons ...but I don't venture out in the heavy stuff ..
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It snowed today just a dusting, I got caught buy surprise an hour away....my car has brand new all weather tires and the car is down right dangerous. I was the only car all over the road...very disappointing but seriously DANGEROUS. Dry roads....awsome touring car. Reminds me of a corvette I owed.
I had 3 generations of 7 series BMW's...much better in the snow, at least controllable.
Next fall I'm going to buy a used BMW X5 sport for the winter or seriously may sell the LS and just buy an SUV.
Up to list point in the snow I get a ride from my wife in her GL 450...unstopable SUV.
I had 3 generations of 7 series BMW's...much better in the snow, at least controllable.
Next fall I'm going to buy a used BMW X5 sport for the winter or seriously may sell the LS and just buy an SUV.
Up to list point in the snow I get a ride from my wife in her GL 450...unstopable SUV.
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I had 3 generations of 7 series BMW's...much better in the snow, at least controllable.
Assuming these were RWD and had the same all weather tires, I wonder why they handle much better in the snow? Maybe they weighed more than this car? I also wonder if the weight distribution is different for the two cars.
Many years ago we had a couple company cars. One was an Olds Omega and the other a Cutlass. The bigger and heavier Cutlass definitely did better in the snow. Putting weight in the trunk of the Omega helped, but it still didn't perform like the Cutlass.
Assuming these were RWD and had the same all weather tires, I wonder why they handle much better in the snow? Maybe they weighed more than this car? I also wonder if the weight distribution is different for the two cars.
Many years ago we had a couple company cars. One was an Olds Omega and the other a Cutlass. The bigger and heavier Cutlass definitely did better in the snow. Putting weight in the trunk of the Omega helped, but it still didn't perform like the Cutlass.
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It snowed today just a dusting, I got caught buy surprise an hour away....my car has brand new all weather tires and the car is down right dangerous. I was the only car all over the road...very disappointing but seriously DANGEROUS. Dry roads....awsome touring car. Reminds me of a corvette I owed.
I had 3 generations of 7 series BMW's...much better in the snow, at least controllable.
Next fall I'm going to buy a used BMW X5 sport for the winter or seriously may sell the LS and just buy an SUV.
Up to list point in the snow I get a ride from my wife in her GL 450...unstopable SUV.
I had 3 generations of 7 series BMW's...much better in the snow, at least controllable.
Next fall I'm going to buy a used BMW X5 sport for the winter or seriously may sell the LS and just buy an SUV.
Up to list point in the snow I get a ride from my wife in her GL 450...unstopable SUV.
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Please don't shoot this messenger, but I've owned 6 LS cars over the years, five before all wheel drive. I live in steep snowy Pittsburgh and the non AWD cars WERE INDEED pretty worthless in snow. I agree with Strad, however, that the AWD version, mine is a 2009, is the best snow vehicle I've ever driven and that includes Audi, Subaru, Explorer and my wifes 2006 RX330. And that's with the OEM all season tires....nothing special foe winter. I will note, however, that AWD gets about 1.5 MPG less in the city...about 16MPG vs 17.5 on the old 2007 RWD LS460.
All of that being said I suggest you get Blizzacks instead of an immediate trade in. Might be a cheapish intermediate solution to an otherwise costly problem. You might decide that the car on BLIZZACKS is good enough to keep for a few years. I'd say it's a decent $600 or so risk/reward equation.
All of that being said I suggest you get Blizzacks instead of an immediate trade in. Might be a cheapish intermediate solution to an otherwise costly problem. You might decide that the car on BLIZZACKS is good enough to keep for a few years. I'd say it's a decent $600 or so risk/reward equation.
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I live in Golden, CO up against the mountains. We get as much snow here as most anywhere.
I have an '08 LS460. I have an extra set of wheels with Michelin X-Ice tires mounted all the way around and they do fine.
On the rare occasion we have more than a 12" snowfall I take the 4WD S-10 pickup, only because I'd rather see it get hit than the LS.
Whit
I have an '08 LS460. I have an extra set of wheels with Michelin X-Ice tires mounted all the way around and they do fine.
On the rare occasion we have more than a 12" snowfall I take the 4WD S-10 pickup, only because I'd rather see it get hit than the LS.
Whit
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I guess what really makes my LS dangerous is the traction control will slip just fine but for some reason when it comes back on it must put power to one wheel more than the other because my car will skid to one side.. always trying to spin the car around.
I can only compare it to other rear wheel cars I had like my 7....the traction control would come on in the snow and the car would still track straight no matter on ice or snow, not my LS.
If I think back on it the engine on my 7 would also lower the rpm when the wheel lost traction...thats one thing that worked perfectly on the car.
I can only compare it to other rear wheel cars I had like my 7....the traction control would come on in the snow and the car would still track straight no matter on ice or snow, not my LS.
If I think back on it the engine on my 7 would also lower the rpm when the wheel lost traction...thats one thing that worked perfectly on the car.
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I put a full set of blizzaks on my LS last winter. They are great for snow and ice. I threw a couple 75lb sand tubes in the trunk and kept a full tank of gas for added weight. I have been through some seriously deep snow (as you can see from the pic) and am more confident in this car than our Traverse AWD.
I rarely use the snow mode with my snow tires on. Stopping is great as well. My biggest concern would be the sand blasting I get from large trucks. LAUGHING. Good luck to you.
I rarely use the snow mode with my snow tires on. Stopping is great as well. My biggest concern would be the sand blasting I get from large trucks. LAUGHING. Good luck to you.
Bought my 2008 LS460 a few months back. Over last week have had a chance to drive it in the snow. I've had real difficulty driving. Going up small inclines has been difficult. Driving straight done a road, car tends to spin and slide out alot.
Have had snow swith on but doesn't help much. Have thought i would get stuck many many times so far.
Is there a trick to these LS460's or do i just need really good snow tires.
Current tires only have 15,000 miles on them.
any advice would be appreciated.
Have had snow swith on but doesn't help much. Have thought i would get stuck many many times so far.
Is there a trick to these LS460's or do i just need really good snow tires.
Current tires only have 15,000 miles on them.
any advice would be appreciated.
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