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07-22-21, 11:10 PM
#17
BATTERY GROUP SIZE/DIMENSIONS
The 2007 Lexus LS460 Owner's Manual does NOT specify any group size or physical dimensions. Posters seem to rave about the OEM Panasonic battery, but I do not see anyone reporting that it can actually be obtained as a replacement, not even at the dealership.
Moderator 'jmcraney' states that Group Size 24 is the correct replacement, except in the case of vehicles optioned with the 'Cold Weather' package, in which case Group Size 27 replaces. And, indeed, the Costco Interstate Batteries website makes this distinction; Group Size 27 for the Cold Weather package, Group Size 24 otherwise. The official depth & height of the two group types are the same, but Group Size 27 is 1 13/16" (or 4.60375cm) wider than Group Size 24.
In my recently-acquired 2007 LS460, I inherited an AutoZone Duralast Red Group Size 24 that is mounted without issue. (Given this vehicle was originally off a Las Vegas dealership lot, not surprisingly, it does not have a Cold Weather package.)
ClubLexus member 'kuhan' found the dimensions of his own OEM Panasonic battery to be generally close to that of Group Size 27. His OEM dimensions do not directly correspond to any standard BCI (Battery Council International) Group Size.
Further, moderator 'jmcraney' found the dimensions of his own OEM battery to be exactly that of Group Size 34, equal in width & depth to Group Size 24, but 1" (or 2.5cm) shorter.
Most retailers specify Group Size 24 as the primary replacement option, but some also specify Group Size 27 and/or Group Size 34 as additional valid replacement options.
Official Group Size 24: 10 1/4"w x 6 13/16"d x 8 7/8"h (or, in cm, 26w x 17.3d x 22.5h)
Official Group Size 27: 12 1/16"w x 6 13/16"d x 8 7/8"h (or, in cm, 30.6w x 17.3d x 22.5h)
Official Group Size 34: 10 1/4"w x 6 13/16"d x 7 7/8"h (or, in cm, 26w x 17.3d x 20h)
Kuhan OEM: 11 3/4"w x 6 5/8"d x 7 3/4"h (or, in cm, 29.85w x 16.83d x 19.69h)
Note that not all retail batteries match their official Group Size dimensions exactly, so some measuring and/or comparison of dimensions is still required.
The correct positive terminal orientation for the vehicle – and as found in the above three Group Sizes – is top, back, right-hand-side. So avoid variants such as Group Size 24F where the positions of the positive & negative terminals have been reversed. Keep in mind that if a retailer is describing the positive terminal orientation as 'front, left' the battery can be rotated 180° to make that work.
A sampling of current product & pricing across retailers reveals virtually identical pricing under equivalent specifications, excluding lower costs at Walmart & Costco (differences in bold & underline):
O'Reilly SuperStart Extreme Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
AutoZone Duralast Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement 700 CCA, $170.
PepBoys Champion Premium, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $130.
Costco Interstate, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $100.
O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27(#27PRMJ): 24-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
AutoZone Duralast Gold, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $170.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Silver, Group Size 27: 24-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
PepBoys Champion Basic, Group Size 27: 30-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $120.
Costco Interstate, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $93.
O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
AutoZone Duralast Red, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Silver, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
PepBoys Champion Basic, Group Size 24: 30-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
Walmart EverStart Plus/Red, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $100.
As you can see from above, Group Size 27 generally provides significantly more CCA for the same price & warranty as a Group Size 24 … if the specific battery will indeed fit.
UPDATE: When I replaced my own battery (in my 2007 Lexus LS460, a base model with very few options) I found the battery tray and battery compartment DID readily accept a Group Size 27 (specifically a O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27, Model PRMJ). Given both the Group Size 27 & Group Size 24 SuperStart Premiums were the same price, I have a 810 CCA battery (versus a 600 CCA battery) at no additional cost.
BATTERY BRANDS, MAKERS & PERFORMANCE
In 2019, Project Farm posted a YouTube video comparatively testing-out six different major brands of car batteries: https://bit.ly/36ZAi7y . My read of it is that, among the four non-AGM batteries, the Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold Group Size 27 & O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27, tested out as best.
I see a lot of positive chatter on these boards about Interstate. And I agree that Interstate USED to be a top-tier, five-star battery brand. I bought them for many trouble-free years. However, over the last five years or so, several mechanics have warned me off current Interstate product. And here's why.
The classic Johnson Control batteries were good product at fair price. But eventually their corporate strategy took a turn. During the 2010s, Johnson Controls accumulated the manufacture and/or licensing of almost every well-known American car battery name brand. That includes snagging (former) high-quality brands such as Interstate & Optima, as well as Delphi, DieHard & AutoCraft (both AdvanceAuto), ACDelco, Duralast (AutoZone), Champion (PepBoys), EverStart (Walmart) & Motorcraft. Meanwhile they steadily migrated all their production to Mexico to be built on-the-cheap. Then, in late-2018, Johnson Controls, with low manufacturing costs vs. high-quality/name-brand revenue streams on-the-books, cashed-out its Battery Division entirely, selling it all off to an "asset management company," dba as 'Clarios,' for $13 billion. Being an 'asset management company' instead of being a 'car battery company,' Clarios bean-counters will likely be looking to 'improve the financials' so they can flip the company down-the-road for a profit. And that will likely lead to even more cheapening of product.
This is why you see a once-premier brand such as Interstate, that used to sell as a premium product off corner-cap metal racks at so many retail auto repair shops, now being sold primarily at deep-discounter Costco.
Sure all those places will likely honor the warranty on the Clarios batteries they sell. (For Costco Interstate, btw, the battery is marked as such and you must return to Costco, not Interstate, to obtain warranty service.) But given the scenario above, the chances they will malfunction or fail within-warranty is surely much higher (than it used to be).
On the flip side, the O'Reilly SuperStart family of batteries is one of the few brands NOT affiliated with (the former) Johnson Controls. Rather it is a product of East Penn Manufacturing. East Penn is not run by accountants and financial-types looking to turn a quick buck. It's a 75-year-old, privately-held, family-owned battery builder running a 2 million square-foot factory in Berks County, Pennsylvania … so the owners have their own skin deep in the game. East Penn also builds-out auto batteries for NAPA and markets its own auto battery brand, Deka. Historically, East Penn also built Duracell-branded batteries for Sam's Club & Batteries+Bulbs… but I am not 100% sure if that is still true today.
So my recommendation is: get a SuperStart and keep a copy of your receipt in the glove box. Then make a quick pit-stop at your local O'Reilly unit 2 or 3 times a year and have them test it out. If they find it failing, you'll get a new one installed free & fast on-the-spot under warranty. Shortly after the warranty expires, just purchase a new one and have them pop it in. Rinse & repeat as needed.
The 2007 Lexus LS460 Owner's Manual does NOT specify any group size or physical dimensions. Posters seem to rave about the OEM Panasonic battery, but I do not see anyone reporting that it can actually be obtained as a replacement, not even at the dealership.
Moderator 'jmcraney' states that Group Size 24 is the correct replacement, except in the case of vehicles optioned with the 'Cold Weather' package, in which case Group Size 27 replaces. And, indeed, the Costco Interstate Batteries website makes this distinction; Group Size 27 for the Cold Weather package, Group Size 24 otherwise. The official depth & height of the two group types are the same, but Group Size 27 is 1 13/16" (or 4.60375cm) wider than Group Size 24.
In my recently-acquired 2007 LS460, I inherited an AutoZone Duralast Red Group Size 24 that is mounted without issue. (Given this vehicle was originally off a Las Vegas dealership lot, not surprisingly, it does not have a Cold Weather package.)
ClubLexus member 'kuhan' found the dimensions of his own OEM Panasonic battery to be generally close to that of Group Size 27. His OEM dimensions do not directly correspond to any standard BCI (Battery Council International) Group Size.
Further, moderator 'jmcraney' found the dimensions of his own OEM battery to be exactly that of Group Size 34, equal in width & depth to Group Size 24, but 1" (or 2.5cm) shorter.
Most retailers specify Group Size 24 as the primary replacement option, but some also specify Group Size 27 and/or Group Size 34 as additional valid replacement options.
Official Group Size 24: 10 1/4"w x 6 13/16"d x 8 7/8"h (or, in cm, 26w x 17.3d x 22.5h)
Official Group Size 27: 12 1/16"w x 6 13/16"d x 8 7/8"h (or, in cm, 30.6w x 17.3d x 22.5h)
Official Group Size 34: 10 1/4"w x 6 13/16"d x 7 7/8"h (or, in cm, 26w x 17.3d x 20h)
Kuhan OEM: 11 3/4"w x 6 5/8"d x 7 3/4"h (or, in cm, 29.85w x 16.83d x 19.69h)
Note that not all retail batteries match their official Group Size dimensions exactly, so some measuring and/or comparison of dimensions is still required.
The correct positive terminal orientation for the vehicle – and as found in the above three Group Sizes – is top, back, right-hand-side. So avoid variants such as Group Size 24F where the positions of the positive & negative terminals have been reversed. Keep in mind that if a retailer is describing the positive terminal orientation as 'front, left' the battery can be rotated 180° to make that work.
A sampling of current product & pricing across retailers reveals virtually identical pricing under equivalent specifications, excluding lower costs at Walmart & Costco (differences in bold & underline):
O'Reilly SuperStart Extreme Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
AutoZone Duralast Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement 700 CCA, $170.
PepBoys Champion Premium, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $170.
Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $130.
Costco Interstate, Group Size 24: 36-month replacement, 700 CCA, $100.
O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27(#27PRMJ): 24-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
AutoZone Duralast Gold, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $170.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Silver, Group Size 27: 24-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
PepBoys Champion Basic, Group Size 27: 30-month replacement, 810 CCA, $150.
Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $120.
Costco Interstate, Group Size 27: 36-month replacement, 810 CCA, $93.
O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
AutoZone Duralast Red, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
AdvanceAuto DieHard Silver, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
PepBoys Champion Basic, Group Size 24: 30-month replacement, 600 CCA, $150.
Walmart EverStart Plus/Red, Group Size 24: 24-month replacement, 600 CCA, $100.
As you can see from above, Group Size 27 generally provides significantly more CCA for the same price & warranty as a Group Size 24 … if the specific battery will indeed fit.
UPDATE: When I replaced my own battery (in my 2007 Lexus LS460, a base model with very few options) I found the battery tray and battery compartment DID readily accept a Group Size 27 (specifically a O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27, Model PRMJ). Given both the Group Size 27 & Group Size 24 SuperStart Premiums were the same price, I have a 810 CCA battery (versus a 600 CCA battery) at no additional cost.
BATTERY BRANDS, MAKERS & PERFORMANCE
In 2019, Project Farm posted a YouTube video comparatively testing-out six different major brands of car batteries: https://bit.ly/36ZAi7y . My read of it is that, among the four non-AGM batteries, the Walmart EverStart Maxx/Gold Group Size 27 & O'Reilly SuperStart Premium Group Size 27, tested out as best.
I see a lot of positive chatter on these boards about Interstate. And I agree that Interstate USED to be a top-tier, five-star battery brand. I bought them for many trouble-free years. However, over the last five years or so, several mechanics have warned me off current Interstate product. And here's why.
The classic Johnson Control batteries were good product at fair price. But eventually their corporate strategy took a turn. During the 2010s, Johnson Controls accumulated the manufacture and/or licensing of almost every well-known American car battery name brand. That includes snagging (former) high-quality brands such as Interstate & Optima, as well as Delphi, DieHard & AutoCraft (both AdvanceAuto), ACDelco, Duralast (AutoZone), Champion (PepBoys), EverStart (Walmart) & Motorcraft. Meanwhile they steadily migrated all their production to Mexico to be built on-the-cheap. Then, in late-2018, Johnson Controls, with low manufacturing costs vs. high-quality/name-brand revenue streams on-the-books, cashed-out its Battery Division entirely, selling it all off to an "asset management company," dba as 'Clarios,' for $13 billion. Being an 'asset management company' instead of being a 'car battery company,' Clarios bean-counters will likely be looking to 'improve the financials' so they can flip the company down-the-road for a profit. And that will likely lead to even more cheapening of product.
This is why you see a once-premier brand such as Interstate, that used to sell as a premium product off corner-cap metal racks at so many retail auto repair shops, now being sold primarily at deep-discounter Costco.
Sure all those places will likely honor the warranty on the Clarios batteries they sell. (For Costco Interstate, btw, the battery is marked as such and you must return to Costco, not Interstate, to obtain warranty service.) But given the scenario above, the chances they will malfunction or fail within-warranty is surely much higher (than it used to be).
On the flip side, the O'Reilly SuperStart family of batteries is one of the few brands NOT affiliated with (the former) Johnson Controls. Rather it is a product of East Penn Manufacturing. East Penn is not run by accountants and financial-types looking to turn a quick buck. It's a 75-year-old, privately-held, family-owned battery builder running a 2 million square-foot factory in Berks County, Pennsylvania … so the owners have their own skin deep in the game. East Penn also builds-out auto batteries for NAPA and markets its own auto battery brand, Deka. Historically, East Penn also built Duracell-branded batteries for Sam's Club & Batteries+Bulbs… but I am not 100% sure if that is still true today.
So my recommendation is: get a SuperStart and keep a copy of your receipt in the glove box. Then make a quick pit-stop at your local O'Reilly unit 2 or 3 times a year and have them test it out. If they find it failing, you'll get a new one installed free & fast on-the-spot under warranty. Shortly after the warranty expires, just purchase a new one and have them pop it in. Rinse & repeat as needed.
Last edited by DrQuality; 01-07-22 at 09:42 PM.
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07-23-21, 03:45 AM
#18
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TrueStart has 84-months warranty, I do not see why any of this batteries would be better.
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07-23-21, 05:23 AM
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I see a lot of positive chatter on these boards about Interstate. And I agree that Interstate USED to be a top-tier, five-star battery brand. I bought them for many trouble-free years. However, over the last five years or so, several mechanics have warned me off current Interstate product. And here's why.
The classic Johnson Control batteries were good product at fair price. But eventually their corporate strategy took a turn. During the 2010s, Johnson Controls accumulated the manufacture and/or licensing of almost every well-known American car battery name brand. That includes snagging (former) high-quality brands such as Interstate & Optima, as well as Delphi, DieHard & AutoCraft (both AdvanceAuto), ACDelco, Duralast (AutoZone), Champion (PepBoys), EverStart (Walmart) & Motorcraft. Meanwhile they steadily migrated all their production to Mexico to be built on-the-cheap. Then, in late-2018, Johnson Controls, with low manufacturing costs vs. high-quality/name-brand revenue streams on-the-books, cashed-out its Battery Division entirely, selling it all off to an "asset management company," dba as 'Clarios,' for $13 billion. Being an 'asset management company' instead of being a 'car battery company,' Clarios bean-counters will likely be looking to 'improve the financials' so they can flip the company down-the-road for a profit. And that will likely lead to even more cheapening of product.
The classic Johnson Control batteries were good product at fair price. But eventually their corporate strategy took a turn. During the 2010s, Johnson Controls accumulated the manufacture and/or licensing of almost every well-known American car battery name brand. That includes snagging (former) high-quality brands such as Interstate & Optima, as well as Delphi, DieHard & AutoCraft (both AdvanceAuto), ACDelco, Duralast (AutoZone), Champion (PepBoys), EverStart (Walmart) & Motorcraft. Meanwhile they steadily migrated all their production to Mexico to be built on-the-cheap. Then, in late-2018, Johnson Controls, with low manufacturing costs vs. high-quality/name-brand revenue streams on-the-books, cashed-out its Battery Division entirely, selling it all off to an "asset management company," dba as 'Clarios,' for $13 billion. Being an 'asset management company' instead of being a 'car battery company,' Clarios bean-counters will likely be looking to 'improve the financials' so they can flip the company down-the-road for a profit. And that will likely lead to even more cheapening of product.
I had also heard that Interstate were not the batteries they once were, and now I know why.
On another car forum a member stated he bought a new bottle of Lexol (a product he used for years) and the product was nasty. Others told him that they moved their production to China.
I have to imagine that in the long run these money saving maneuvers will come back to bite those companies in the ***.
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07-23-21, 05:25 AM
#20
Pole Position
Nice write up!
I had also heard that Interstate were not the batteries they once were, and now I know why.
On another car forum a member stated he bought a new bottle of Lexol (a product he used for years) and the product was nasty. Others told him that they moved their production to China.
I have to imagine that in the long run these money saving maneuvers will come back to bite those companies in the ***.
I had also heard that Interstate were not the batteries they once were, and now I know why.
On another car forum a member stated he bought a new bottle of Lexol (a product he used for years) and the product was nasty. Others told him that they moved their production to China.
I have to imagine that in the long run these money saving maneuvers will come back to bite those companies in the ***.
07-23-21, 06:30 AM
#21
Pole Position
I have installed 3 Duracell AGM Platinum Batteries in the 2 family SC 430's and 1 in my 2010 LS 460L. I have had excellent results with them and they have never let me down. The oldest one was installed in my 2006 SC 430 in Jan 2018 and the newest one was installed in my 2010 LS 460L in March of 2021.
Dennis
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07-23-21, 06:43 AM
#22
Some (but not all) of those batteries I listed also have extended pro-rated warranties that last much longer, yes, as much as 84-months of TOTAL warranty.
Given I am currently located in sweltering-Las Vegas, I am NOT thinking foremost about longer pro-rated battery warranties. The heat here can easily kill a new battery in 2.0 - 2.5 years.
Rather, I am much more concerned with whether the full & free replacement is 2 years ... or 3 years. Best wishes ...
Last edited by DrQuality; 07-23-21 at 04:18 PM.
07-23-21, 06:58 AM
#23
Nice write up!
I had also heard that Interstate were not the batteries they once were, and now I know why.
On another car forum a member stated he bought a new bottle of Lexol (a product he used for years) and the product was nasty. Others told him that they moved their production to China.
I have to imagine that in the long run these money saving maneuvers will come back to bite those companies in the ***.
I had also heard that Interstate were not the batteries they once were, and now I know why.
On another car forum a member stated he bought a new bottle of Lexol (a product he used for years) and the product was nasty. Others told him that they moved their production to China.
I have to imagine that in the long run these money saving maneuvers will come back to bite those companies in the ***.
I remember Lexol well. I used it to some extent in two vehicles I owned a-way-back, before the Avalon, the early 2000s. Then I switched off of it to another product that impressed me even far more, Connolly Hide Food Leather Conditioner, apparently made from leather byproducts by Connolly, then the leather-maker for Bentley & RR. And I ordered it direct from a dealership to ensure it was authentic.
However when I reached the ownership of the Avalon, which had the mini-perforated leather as does this Lexus LS460, I found that type of product difficult with which to work. And I had seen statements to the effect that serious leather treatment of this type was no longer effective with newer leathers that are (often) thinly top-coated with some type of plastic sealer. So I stopped using them.
I just visited reviews for the Connolly product at Amazon and find it has been reformulated as Connolly Hide CARE Leather Conditioner … and, what a surprise, reviewers rate the new formula is quite poor. Though the label still claims it to be made in England, who knows, really.
07-23-21, 07:16 AM
#24
Not sure it is of interest, but I will mention that along this journey I discovered that DieHard - once one of Sears' central trademarks - was actually purchased, as a trademark, by Advance Auto for the price of around $200 million. No wonder I am recently seeing a bunch of pre-roll YouTube ads for DieHard car batteries filled with brief clips of Bruce Willis! But even though Advance saw great value in the DieHard brand, it appears their current agreement is to source their DieHard batteries from the Clarios operation.
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07-25-21, 07:32 AM
#25
This is what I've seen posted on different sites -
"I've always loved the smell and finish of Lexol leather cleaner and conditioner. Last week, I purchased a brand new set and to my surprise, it smelled horrible, the texture of the spray seemed thicker, and it left the leather on my seats a bit sticky. I even tried shaking the bottle vigorously before applying and I still ended up with the same results. I checked the back of the bottle and compared it to my old one and noticed the new one had "Made in China" written on it while the old one had, "Made in the USA"."
"I've been using Lexol conditioner with great results (please lets not turn this into a comparison thread) for many years.
It is one of the few detailing products I use that can be found in regular stores. So a few weeks ago I picked up a bottle at Pep Boys. New bottle and graphics. OK no problem. The label states "original formula." Well this crap is nasty. The old Lexol had a very natural smell. The new Lexol smells like outdated cough syrup."
"I've always loved the smell and finish of Lexol leather cleaner and conditioner. Last week, I purchased a brand new set and to my surprise, it smelled horrible, the texture of the spray seemed thicker, and it left the leather on my seats a bit sticky. I even tried shaking the bottle vigorously before applying and I still ended up with the same results. I checked the back of the bottle and compared it to my old one and noticed the new one had "Made in China" written on it while the old one had, "Made in the USA"."
"I've been using Lexol conditioner with great results (please lets not turn this into a comparison thread) for many years.
It is one of the few detailing products I use that can be found in regular stores. So a few weeks ago I picked up a bottle at Pep Boys. New bottle and graphics. OK no problem. The label states "original formula." Well this crap is nasty. The old Lexol had a very natural smell. The new Lexol smells like outdated cough syrup."
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07-25-21, 07:45 AM
#26
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Thanks! I had good results using Lexol so far even though it is my first experience with leather seats and seat care products. Probably, I purchased one of the last bottles made in US. I will check the bottle at some to see which one I have.
07-26-21, 12:07 AM
#27
I absolutely agree. It is short-term gain in exchange for long-term failure. Sometimes I explain it another way. The management who built-up these companies were akin to farmers/ranchers, investing labor & capital to end up with more & better product than from which they started. Seed to crops, calves to cattle. Unfortunately, today's management often behave much more like butchers/milkers, minimizing cost & labor, doling out the lowest amount of feed, extracting as much of the value (built-up by others) out of the product & company as possible, milking the cows bone-dry, until there is all but nothing left. Then they ship off the near-dead cattle to the slaughterhouse to squeeze the last few pennies out of them. Part of the cause of that behavior is those managers have none of their own skin in the game. When those managers have reduced the company and product to rubble, they will have collected all their huge salaries, bonuses and stock options (that were devised to incentivize them to do exactly what they did) ... and then be long gone, sipping mimosas on their yachts in Monaco.
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05-10-23, 10:05 PM
#28
Sorry for reviving the old thread but I am kind of interested in putting 34R battery in 2011 LS460. I recently got this for ls400 and thinking to swap it into my ls460. Thoughts?
current battery in ls400, https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BAT9834R
current battery in ls460, Exide Automotive Battery E24-EX (Group 24) (batterysystems.net)
current battery in ls400, https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BAT9834R
current battery in ls460, Exide Automotive Battery E24-EX (Group 24) (batterysystems.net)
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