Official 2013 Lexus LS460/460L/600hL & F-Sport thread
08-02-12, 08:07 AM
#331
Pole Position
That balance is what everyone wants, is magical, but is also extremely difficult and extremely expensive. It is easy to make it handle on rail and ride very harsh, or feels like floating on cloud, but it float.
The press release said they tuned it a little, it is mostly they lowered the F-Sport electronically, they might have revalved the shocks a little. I don't see any hardwares changes. I don't expect any major differences in feels from the 13' car. If anything, they made it harsher. Just like the 4GS, it handles good now, but ride harsh. IMO, the Japanese is weakest in the suspension department, follow closely by styling.
The press release said they tuned it a little, it is mostly they lowered the F-Sport electronically, they might have revalved the shocks a little. I don't see any hardwares changes. I don't expect any major differences in feels from the 13' car. If anything, they made it harsher. Just like the 4GS, it handles good now, but ride harsh. IMO, the Japanese is weakest in the suspension department, follow closely by styling.
08-02-12, 08:12 AM
#332
Lexus Connoisseur
Ryan wow, thanks for the pics.
We get shafted again!!!
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/08/0...red-in-europe/
We get shafted again!!!
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/08/0...red-in-europe/
08-02-12, 08:17 AM
#333
Moderator
08-02-12, 08:23 AM
#334
Pole Position
a. GS doesnt ride harsh.
b. GS handles best in the class.
c. F-Sport at least has active stabilizators that it didnt have before, so i dont think they didnt change anything. It wouldnt hurt if you would look around a bit for info before trying to sound as authority on these matters.
b. GS handles best in the class.
c. F-Sport at least has active stabilizators that it didnt have before, so i dont think they didnt change anything. It wouldnt hurt if you would look around a bit for info before trying to sound as authority on these matters.
08-02-12, 09:19 AM
#336
Lexus Connoisseur
Since we're a bit off topic...lets bring it back in line....
Official LS 600h F SPORT photos from Lexus Europe:
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Official LS 600h F SPORT photos from Lexus Europe:
08-02-12, 09:53 AM
#337
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^^ wish the wheels fit like that in production. 
08-02-12, 10:24 AM
#339
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I wonder if the three-spoke steering wheel is standard across the board or if the non-sport models will have the typical four-spoke wheel. I'm not a big fan of three-spoke steering wheels in a luxury car.
08-02-12, 01:23 PM
#343
Yep, I always want loaded models on luxury cars. The only car I bought is not loaded is my Sienna LE, because it's not a luxury car. 
All my past cars are loaded or special edition ( 2 LS430 ULs and my individual 7 for example ), granted I didn't buy them brand new, but I always try to find rare combos and loaded examples.
All my past cars are loaded or special edition ( 2 LS430 ULs and my individual 7 for example ), granted I didn't buy them brand new, but I always try to find rare combos and loaded examples.
08-02-12, 04:19 PM
#344
Exactly! I see so many **** talkers out there leaving negative comments on other reviews and I don't think they could even afford the car. You can not buy a better overall car than the Lexus LS. You will never please everybody. Most people don't care about how well a car is engineered. The best are when they say the LS is a redesigned Avalon.
08-02-12, 04:26 PM
#345
Lexus Fanatic
Exactly! I see so many **** talkers out there leaving negative comments on other reviews and I don't think they could even afford the car. You can not buy a better overall car than the Lexus LS. You will never please everybody. Most people don't care about how well a car is engineered. The best are when they say the LS is a redesigned Avalon.