Official 2013 Lexus LS460/460L/600hL & F-Sport thread
08-03-12, 10:13 AM
#361
I mean if you get LWB, it is because you are being driven in the LS... and if you are being driven, then you want more comfortable model and not F-Sport, right?
08-03-12, 10:51 AM
#363
well lwb is worse for sport driving - why exactly would someone get F-Sport LWB anyway? Just because they want it lwb? It doesnt make much sense to me but maybe I am not understanding?
I mean if you get LWB, it is because you are being driven in the LS... and if you are being driven, then you want more comfortable model and not F-Sport, right?
I mean if you get LWB, it is because you are being driven in the LS... and if you are being driven, then you want more comfortable model and not F-Sport, right?
08-03-12, 11:09 AM
#364
Lexus Connoisseur
08-03-12, 11:54 AM
#365
Lexus Connoisseur
The 19" are carryover from last year's Sport wheel. Look really cool but a paint to clean off the brembo brake dust. I guess that's why they decided to go with the inner spokes as gray and left some of the spokes the regular brushed aluminum finish.
08-03-12, 11:57 AM
#366
Lexus Connoisseur
I guess Lexus didn't find the need to add the LFA-esque aluminum trim to the F SPORT's steering wheel:
08-03-12, 12:20 PM
#368
Lexus Connoisseur
08-03-12, 12:29 PM
#369
just about as pointless as doing "sport" in a car like ls? the ls is already a big and pretty heavy car. having some fun in it is fine. but that extra 5 inches is not going do wonders or kill anything. i am all for fsport in the lwb as well. let people choose. before you even try, 07-09 lexus ls460l touring package with larger wheels, bigger brakes, and better sways, it's on lwb ONLY. and yes, that car handled better than swb
I just dont get why - you are buying it for yourself, who is going to be in the back that needs extra inches of space if you are driving the car?
Is it one of those things - people want maxed out not matter how little sense it makes?
08-03-12, 12:44 PM
#370
Lexus Fanatic
I see LS460Ls, LWD 7's, S classes all the time, people aren't being driven. I personally wouldn't buy a LWB LS, but people surely do...just look at the LS owning members here, plenty of LS460L's...none with people being driven.
I like most of the changes to the new LS, I think its a little too sporty in a couple areas, I for instance dislike 3 spoke wheels on cars like the LS...but all in all I like it.
I like most of the changes to the new LS, I think its a little too sporty in a couple areas, I for instance dislike 3 spoke wheels on cars like the LS...but all in all I like it.
08-03-12, 01:24 PM
#371
once again why? just because? 5 extra inches in wheelbase is not going to help the handling thats for sure...
I just dont get why - you are buying it for yourself, who is going to be in the back that needs extra inches of space if you are driving the car?
Is it one of those things - people want maxed out not matter how little sense it makes?
I just dont get why - you are buying it for yourself, who is going to be in the back that needs extra inches of space if you are driving the car?
Is it one of those things - people want maxed out not matter how little sense it makes?
it's just plain silly if you are to think that's the reason why something is not "needed". yes one can argue it's all preference, but at the same time i would say it's silly for you to even be talking about luxury brands, because it's all (mostly) about the extras. that extra air vents, that extra chrome trim, that extra inch in space, that extra piece of insulation.
just because? that's like saying no one should really get anything more than a corolla, because it's light, it's great on gas, it accelerates and handles just fine, and it's cheap. keep in mind i am not even trying to get into why need the rear 2 doors
i never said the extra inches will help on handling, but it's safe to say it's not going to make that much of a difference. i know because i have driven most ls460, lwb vs swb, touring, sport, etc... before anyone starts to blame on the length of the car, i will simply state first that hardly anyone even come close to utilize the handling capabilities of these cars, even on lwb (let alone swb)
talking about "making sense" in buying luxury car is a very funny combination, especially when you get into flagship cars that cost north of 70k easily here in the US. at that level, it's more about choices, not sense
Last edited by rominl; 08-03-12 at 01:27 PM.
08-03-12, 02:22 PM
#372
Lexus Test Driver
once again why? just because? 5 extra inches in wheelbase is not going to help the handling thats for sure...
I just dont get why - you are buying it for yourself, who is going to be in the back that needs extra inches of space if you are driving the car?
Is it one of those things - people want maxed out not matter how little sense it makes?
I just dont get why - you are buying it for yourself, who is going to be in the back that needs extra inches of space if you are driving the car?
Is it one of those things - people want maxed out not matter how little sense it makes?
08-03-12, 02:33 PM
#373
who said people don't carry others in their cars? i don't have people sitting in the backseats every day, but every time when there are more than 2 people they all crave to ask me to drive my s550 because they love how spacious it is. THAT says something about the extra inches.
it's just plain silly if you are to think that's the reason why something is not "needed". yes one can argue it's all preference, but at the same time i would say it's silly for you to even be talking about luxury brands, because it's all (mostly) about the extras. that extra air vents, that extra chrome trim, that extra inch in space, that extra piece of insulation.
just because? that's like saying no one should really get anything more than a corolla, because it's light, it's great on gas, it accelerates and handles just fine, and it's cheap. keep in mind i am not even trying to get into why need the rear 2 doors
i never said the extra inches will help on handling, but it's safe to say it's not going to make that much of a difference. i know because i have driven most ls460, lwb vs swb, touring, sport, etc... before anyone starts to blame on the length of the car, i will simply state first that hardly anyone even come close to utilize the handling capabilities of these cars, even on lwb (let alone swb)
talking about "making sense" in buying luxury car is a very funny combination, especially when you get into flagship cars that cost north of 70k easily here in the US. at that level, it's more about choices, not sense
it's just plain silly if you are to think that's the reason why something is not "needed". yes one can argue it's all preference, but at the same time i would say it's silly for you to even be talking about luxury brands, because it's all (mostly) about the extras. that extra air vents, that extra chrome trim, that extra inch in space, that extra piece of insulation.
just because? that's like saying no one should really get anything more than a corolla, because it's light, it's great on gas, it accelerates and handles just fine, and it's cheap. keep in mind i am not even trying to get into why need the rear 2 doors
i never said the extra inches will help on handling, but it's safe to say it's not going to make that much of a difference. i know because i have driven most ls460, lwb vs swb, touring, sport, etc... before anyone starts to blame on the length of the car, i will simply state first that hardly anyone even come close to utilize the handling capabilities of these cars, even on lwb (let alone swb)
talking about "making sense" in buying luxury car is a very funny combination, especially when you get into flagship cars that cost north of 70k easily here in the US. at that level, it's more about choices, not sense
Fo me, any cars cost more than $50k here in the US is NOT sensible at all. It is all about choices, the WANTS versus the needs and sense.
08-03-12, 04:22 PM
#374
who said people don't carry others in their cars? i don't have people sitting in the backseats every day, but every time when there are more than 2 people they all crave to ask me to drive my s550 because they love how spacious it is. THAT says something about the extra inches.
it's just plain silly if you are to think that's the reason why something is not "needed". yes one can argue it's all preference, but at the same time i would say it's silly for you to even be talking about luxury brands, because it's all (mostly) about the extras. that extra air vents, that extra chrome trim, that extra inch in space, that extra piece of insulation.
just because? that's like saying no one should really get anything more than a corolla, because it's light, it's great on gas, it accelerates and handles just fine, and it's cheap. keep in mind i am not even trying to get into why need the rear 2 doors
i never said the extra inches will help on handling, but it's safe to say it's not going to make that much of a difference. i know because i have driven most ls460, lwb vs swb, touring, sport, etc... before anyone starts to blame on the length of the car, i will simply state first that hardly anyone even come close to utilize the handling capabilities of these cars, even on lwb (let alone swb)
talking about "making sense" in buying luxury car is a very funny combination, especially when you get into flagship cars that cost north of 70k easily here in the US. at that level, it's more about choices, not sense
it's just plain silly if you are to think that's the reason why something is not "needed". yes one can argue it's all preference, but at the same time i would say it's silly for you to even be talking about luxury brands, because it's all (mostly) about the extras. that extra air vents, that extra chrome trim, that extra inch in space, that extra piece of insulation.
just because? that's like saying no one should really get anything more than a corolla, because it's light, it's great on gas, it accelerates and handles just fine, and it's cheap. keep in mind i am not even trying to get into why need the rear 2 doors
i never said the extra inches will help on handling, but it's safe to say it's not going to make that much of a difference. i know because i have driven most ls460, lwb vs swb, touring, sport, etc... before anyone starts to blame on the length of the car, i will simply state first that hardly anyone even come close to utilize the handling capabilities of these cars, even on lwb (let alone swb)
talking about "making sense" in buying luxury car is a very funny combination, especially when you get into flagship cars that cost north of 70k easily here in the US. at that level, it's more about choices, not sense
08-03-12, 04:27 PM
#375