Can some give me some insight
02-12-13, 11:59 PM
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Can some give me some insight
On their maintenance cost, any contribution would be appreciated. I'm looking at 07 or 08 Swb or lwb.
How is the reliability? Are there certain woes that are just bound to happen. would anyone recommend a warranty?
Thanks in advance for any input
How is the reliability? Are there certain woes that are just bound to happen. would anyone recommend a warranty?
Thanks in advance for any input
02-13-13, 06:27 AM
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The few niggling issues that I see (and I'm new to the 460 world), these are what I see from doing some searching around and reading. The following are:
-Lower Control Arm bushings (requires control arm replacement)
-Batteries seem to have a shorter life. (if you dont drive a lot, a Battery Tender helps)
-LWB Air Struts fail and are expensive
-Valve Spring recall sometimes requires a re-flash or you will have driveability issues
-Nav must be updated by dealer, you can't DIY
-Door switch plunger fails and the car does not 'see' you exit, so the headlights stay on and drain the battery
-Mark Levinson Amp will fail and replacement is pricey but there are places that can repair them
-Water pumps seem to be a frequent replacement item
-Brake Actuators have an updated service number, but those are still showing symptoms
-Factory Bridgestone EL42 and Michelin Pilot MXM4 tires dont last long at all.
That being said, I absolutely love my LS460L. I have owned many S Class cars, Infinitis, full sized Linc/Mercury sedans, and the Lexus experience is like non other.
I did purchase an extended warranty through my credit union , and have used it already with no issues at my local dealer. I would most definitely recommend getting a CPO car, or buying a good extended warranty (i.e. google search the name of the warranty company, look at ripoffreport and the bbb).
As far as maintenance costs go, I was told $180.00 for 5,000 mile intervals by a local dealer, which included Oil Change, Tire Rotation and a Multi Point inspection. Later, when I talked to a different advisor at the dealership, he told me the oil changes were $79.99 and the "World Class" Inspection was included, as well as a car wash. If you buy your tires from Discount Tire, NTB, Costco, Sams etc, they usually include lifetime rotate and balance. The 60K service was almost $1,100 dollars and many of the things listed on their list were not listed in the owners manual. I have also noticed that the Dealers "Service Menu" varies greatly with the Lexus maintenance booklets requirements.
Also, you may find a Toyota dealer that is willing to work on your car for basic stuff for much less. I was quoted $19.99 at the Toyota dealer, and when I asked about the additional quarts of oil thats required for the LS460, his reply was "Eh, whatever, I dont care, just bring it in."
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02-13-13, 01:45 PM
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Can some give me some insight
If you bring it to a dealer it is expensive. If you DIY or go to Toyota, or have a competent independent mechanic, the costs are normal and reasonable.
This is clearly the most reliable luxury car you can buy.
Unfortunately most (probably all) '07 and '08 models will not qualify for a Lexus extended warranty. You are on your own with a third party insurer.
Oh, and welcome to CL. We can't wait to see which LS you buy!
If you bring it to a dealer it is expensive. If you DIY or go to Toyota, or have a competent independent mechanic, the costs are normal and reasonable.
This is clearly the most reliable luxury car you can buy.
Oh, and welcome to CL. We can't wait to see which LS you buy!
02-13-13, 03:40 PM
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It seems if you buy a car that has a good service history, (i.e. at the Dealer or a Good Indy), that you wont have any issues.
The few niggling issues that I see (and I'm new to the 460 world), these are what I see from doing some searching around and reading. The following are:"
The few niggling issues that I see (and I'm new to the 460 world), these are what I see from doing some searching around and reading. The following are:"
I got a Lexus Platinum extended warranty for 4 yrs/40,000 miles on my 2007 with 86K miles on it when I bought it.
02-14-13, 07:09 AM
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http://www.lexusfinancial.com/consum...parison_unsclf
I think the reason why most are under this impression is that only the selling dealer can sell a USED Lexus Platinum VSA, and it must be purchased at time of sale.
If the car is within the original 4 yr / 50,000 mile original warranty then any dealer can sell it. Being any dealer can sell it there is competition and big discounts are available by shopping around.
02-14-13, 07:58 AM
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Lexus= $165
Toyota= $66
But Lexus has a guy in a tux to greet you out front and a hostess with free snacks in the waiting room.
What I don't know yet is if Toyota can/ will enter the visit in the Lexus data base or not. Anyone?
02-14-13, 12:26 PM
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But Lexus has a guy in a tux to greet you out front and a hostess with free snacks in the waiting room.
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02-14-13, 12:37 PM
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I also realized I didn't answer OP's question about recommending an extended warranty. Lexusfan if you do a search of this forum you will find several threads where this is discussed. Some people would never buy one and others wouldn't go without one. There are pros and cons and a lot depends on your personal circumstances.
I debated it and at the last minute before my original warranty expired I bought a Lexus Platinum warranty. Although these cars are extremely reliable, if just about anything breaks the repairs are extremely expensive. Two members here had Nav screens go on them and one cost $11,000 and the other $13,000 to replace.
02-14-13, 01:03 PM
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Generally speaking extended warranties do not pay off on the average but there is a comfort value knowing that your covered. The main reason I purchased the Platinum warranty was my wife's risk tolerance is low. I also know if I sell the car before the Platinum Warranty expires I can get a prorated refund for unused months, as I did with my Toyota Avalon.
JR
02-14-13, 04:55 PM
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Aftermarket warranties, including Lexus have a lot of profit built into them. I wish they were regulated like other insurance products. I like ASC because they pay the dealer directly.
02-14-13, 08:50 PM
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I already had 1 air strut, 2 control arms and a blower motor replaced, and the warranty has paid for itself almost 2X. They just give the dealer a CC # and pay direct. Service writer said it was headache free.
02-15-13, 04:47 AM
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Fortunately one can buy a Lexus Platinum Warranty from out of state lexus or Toyota dealers at a discount.
I feel that buying aftermarket warranties is a littke more risky. I got burned many years ago with an aftermarket extended Warranty http://www.warrantygold.com/ when the underwriter went bankrupt and the warranty became worthless.
The service writer at my local Lexus dealer told me they had one of the companies they sold also go under. They ended up covering the policies out of their own pocket as customer goodwill.
JR
02-15-13, 07:35 AM
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It seems if you buy a car that has a good service history, (i.e. at the Dealer or a Good Indy), that you wont have any issues.
The few niggling issues that I see (and I'm new to the 460 world), these are what I see from doing some searching around and reading. The following are:
-Lower Control Arm bushings (requires control arm replacement)
-Batteries seem to have a shorter life. (if you dont drive a lot, a Battery Tender helps)
-LWB Air Struts fail and are expensive
-Valve Spring recall sometimes requires a re-flash or you will have driveability issues
-Nav must be updated by dealer, you can't DIY
-Door switch plunger fails and the car does not 'see' you exit, so the headlights stay on and drain the battery
-Mark Levinson Amp will fail and replacement is pricey but there are places that can repair them
-Water pumps seem to be a frequent replacement item
-Brake Actuators have an updated service number, but those are still showing symptoms
-Factory Bridgestone EL42 and Michelin Pilot MXM4 tires dont last long at all.
That being said, I absolutely love my LS460L. I have owned many S Class cars, Infinitis, full sized Linc/Mercury sedans, and the Lexus experience is like non other.
I did purchase an extended warranty through my credit union , and have used it already with no issues at my local dealer. I would most definitely recommend getting a CPO car, or buying a good extended warranty (i.e. google search the name of the warranty company, look at ripoffreport and the bbb).
As far as maintenance costs go, I was told $180.00 for 5,000 mile intervals by a local dealer, which included Oil Change, Tire Rotation and a Multi Point inspection. Later, when I talked to a different advisor at the dealership, he told me the oil changes were $79.99 and the "World Class" Inspection was included, as well as a car wash. If you buy your tires from Discount Tire, NTB, Costco, Sams etc, they usually include lifetime rotate and balance. The 60K service was almost $1,100 dollars and many of the things listed on their list were not listed in the owners manual. I have also noticed that the Dealers "Service Menu" varies greatly with the Lexus maintenance booklets requirements.
Also, you may find a Toyota dealer that is willing to work on your car for basic stuff for much less. I was quoted $19.99 at the Toyota dealer, and when I asked about the additional quarts of oil thats required for the LS460, his reply was "Eh, whatever, I dont care, just bring it in."
The few niggling issues that I see (and I'm new to the 460 world), these are what I see from doing some searching around and reading. The following are:
-Lower Control Arm bushings (requires control arm replacement)
-Batteries seem to have a shorter life. (if you dont drive a lot, a Battery Tender helps)
-LWB Air Struts fail and are expensive
-Valve Spring recall sometimes requires a re-flash or you will have driveability issues
-Nav must be updated by dealer, you can't DIY
-Door switch plunger fails and the car does not 'see' you exit, so the headlights stay on and drain the battery
-Mark Levinson Amp will fail and replacement is pricey but there are places that can repair them
-Water pumps seem to be a frequent replacement item
-Brake Actuators have an updated service number, but those are still showing symptoms
-Factory Bridgestone EL42 and Michelin Pilot MXM4 tires dont last long at all.
That being said, I absolutely love my LS460L. I have owned many S Class cars, Infinitis, full sized Linc/Mercury sedans, and the Lexus experience is like non other.
I did purchase an extended warranty through my credit union , and have used it already with no issues at my local dealer. I would most definitely recommend getting a CPO car, or buying a good extended warranty (i.e. google search the name of the warranty company, look at ripoffreport and the bbb).
As far as maintenance costs go, I was told $180.00 for 5,000 mile intervals by a local dealer, which included Oil Change, Tire Rotation and a Multi Point inspection. Later, when I talked to a different advisor at the dealership, he told me the oil changes were $79.99 and the "World Class" Inspection was included, as well as a car wash. If you buy your tires from Discount Tire, NTB, Costco, Sams etc, they usually include lifetime rotate and balance. The 60K service was almost $1,100 dollars and many of the things listed on their list were not listed in the owners manual. I have also noticed that the Dealers "Service Menu" varies greatly with the Lexus maintenance booklets requirements.
Also, you may find a Toyota dealer that is willing to work on your car for basic stuff for much less. I was quoted $19.99 at the Toyota dealer, and when I asked about the additional quarts of oil thats required for the LS460, his reply was "Eh, whatever, I dont care, just bring it in."
02-15-13, 07:36 AM
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Can some give me some insight
If you bring it to a dealer it is expensive. If you DIY or go to Toyota, or have a competent independent mechanic, the costs are normal and reasonable.
This is clearly the most reliable luxury car you can buy.
Unfortunately most (probably all) '07 and '08 models will not qualify for a Lexus extended warranty. You are on your own with a third party insurer.
Oh, and welcome to CL. We can't wait to see which LS you buy!
If you bring it to a dealer it is expensive. If you DIY or go to Toyota, or have a competent independent mechanic, the costs are normal and reasonable.
This is clearly the most reliable luxury car you can buy.
Unfortunately most (probably all) '07 and '08 models will not qualify for a Lexus extended warranty. You are on your own with a third party insurer.
Oh, and welcome to CL. We can't wait to see which LS you buy!
02-15-13, 03:53 PM
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There are two different types of Platinum warranties available from Lexus. New Vehicle VSA and USED Vehicle VSA. Coverages are slightly different.
http://www.lexusfinancial.com/consum...parison_unsclf
I think the reason why most are under this impression is that only the selling dealer can sell a USED Lexus Platinum VSA, and it must be purchased at time of sale.
If the car is within the original 4 yr / 50,000 mile original warranty then any dealer can sell it. Being any dealer can sell it there is competition and big discounts are available by shopping around.
http://www.lexusfinancial.com/consum...parison_unsclf
I think the reason why most are under this impression is that only the selling dealer can sell a USED Lexus Platinum VSA, and it must be purchased at time of sale.
If the car is within the original 4 yr / 50,000 mile original warranty then any dealer can sell it. Being any dealer can sell it there is competition and big discounts are available by shopping around.