New S-Class might give Lexus some headaches
05-26-13, 05:14 PM
#16
Lexus Test Driver
Im pretty sure Lexus have already designed the new LS and its in their HQ somewhere on a piece of paper. Wait about 3 years and itll be out. Might be late but look on the bright side, theyll know all the tricks of the other cars.
S class cant beat lexus on reliability. Mercs are not what they once were. Maybe its just me, but even their £115k SL63 amg felt cheap to me, somehow I think the S class will too, and most of those hi tech gadgets are most likely optional extras anyway.
S class cant beat lexus on reliability. Mercs are not what they once were. Maybe its just me, but even their £115k SL63 amg felt cheap to me, somehow I think the S class will too, and most of those hi tech gadgets are most likely optional extras anyway.
05-26-13, 07:46 PM
#17
Lexus Fanatic
I will admit that the S class is the benchmark in this segment. Nobody can beat the tech that they offer in this segment from Mercedes. BMW is close but still not the best. The tech that the S class gets is what the rest of the entire industry will get over the next 7-15 years. They also offer a much better performance segment and options.
05-26-13, 07:47 PM
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Not sure what the fuss is about comparing to LS. MB is targeting BMW, Audi executive market to increase market share. The ride will be good but the interior will really have to impress that nich for them to switch. Since most will be leased, reliability/durability are out of the equation so Lexus is another me too in that market.
Really need to see it in the flesh to decide but it is safe to assume the interior materials should be top class
05-26-13, 09:49 PM
#19
The reason the S Class sells like hotcakes is that everyone knows the S Class is king of luxury cars around the world, and rich people want cache without being ostentatious (think RR and Bentley) when they spend big bucks on a luxury ride. The LS460L is like 30k-40k less expensive than a comparably equipped S550. That's not even getting into adding the Designo paints and interior color schemes special order. AMG wheels, Burmeister sound, etc...the sticker can easily top 125k.
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05-26-13, 10:09 PM
#20
The LS was never close to the S class. The S class totally leads this segment of luxury cars and it's not even close. Perhaps the Audi A8 pushes it slightly, but when it comes to overall luxury, ride, advanced technology and pure executive business luxury sedan, the S class tops. Don't fool yourselves into thinking that the LS is an "alternative" to the S class as it is not. It may mimick or copy some features and would have you believe that it is close to an S class, but it it is not. There is a reason why the price difference is substantial. Taking reliability out of the equation. I am not a Mercedes owner so i am not biased, but i have driven all of the large luxo sedans. I can say that you have to drive and sit inside an S class to understand that there is no such thing as a "New S-class might give lexus some headaches". lol
Lexus 1st, Merc dead last.
Lexus started losing their way with the LS460 as everyone else upped their game.
05-27-13, 12:18 PM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
I think the new LS is a refresh at best. If the the S class is all new then the LS needs to step up. I will admit I like the new interior on the LS but that, some new brake lights, and a crease in the hood is not enough for people to call this a new LS. BMW and Mercedes have redesigned their flagships and the LS is still pretty much the same. Lexus also need to push up the horsepower offerings. 380 hp in a flagship V8 sedan is kind of low rent when you consider the Americans offer HP into the 450-500+ range.
05-27-13, 04:21 PM
#22
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I wonder if Mercedes stole it's S-Class interior design clues from this
http://www.carbodydesign.com/2013/03...-royce-wraith/
http://www.carbodydesign.com/2013/03...-royce-wraith/
05-27-13, 04:50 PM
#23
I wonder if Mercedes stole it's S-Class interior design clues from this
http://www.carbodydesign.com/2013/03...-royce-wraith/
http://www.carbodydesign.com/2013/03...-royce-wraith/
05-27-13, 08:24 PM
#24
It is impressive, but there is so much stuff that can break on the car. 
05-29-13, 05:02 AM
#25
Lexus Champion
Mercedes makes a great car no doubt. they pioneered a ton of new tech abs,air bags etc(and as such are also the most lemon lawed).. but at the end of the day only one thing matters to me...RESALE VALUE... and then mercedes cant hold a candle to lexus..
and Lexus customer service is second to none...any time i went to mercedes service i always felt like i was being scolded for DRIVING... MY mercedes.."its not meant to be driven like that".. sorry grandpa's not here.. just fix the damn thing..
and Lexus customer service is second to none...any time i went to mercedes service i always felt like i was being scolded for DRIVING... MY mercedes.."its not meant to be driven like that".. sorry grandpa's not here.. just fix the damn thing..
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05-29-13, 09:26 PM
#26
But the LS has a Predator grille........
.https://www.clublexus.com/forums/att...d=136966943443 Official paid model for LS grille.
.https://www.clublexus.com/forums/att...d=136966943443 Official paid model for LS grille.
05-30-13, 10:29 AM
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