PeteinPA

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I have looked through the entire Wheel/Rim thread great info and pic's but it doesn't really help me understand offsets and what I need to know before ordering.

I am going with a 20" staggered set, moderate price range. Looking at Vertini's and Concept One as possible choices.

I am not sure what offsets to order and does it even matter? If anyone can explain offsets in layman's terms I would greatly appreciate it.

Aristo300

Anytime someone makes a wheel fitment thread, the audience immediately goes haywire about the sticky thread.

Well I'm here to tell you guys; That thread has so much crucial information missing from 50-60% of the entries........ I'm going to be asking this same question about 22" wheels, their offsets, tire sizes, etc.

LS430Nole

Offset is the distance between the mounting surface of the wheel to the center line of the wheel. Essentially the higher the offset number the further the mounting surface is from the centerline of the wheel.

For example: let's say your stock wheels have an offset of +45. This means the mounting surface is 45mm off the centerline. Let's say you mounted wheels that had an offset of +25 then the mounting surface of the wheel would be 20mm closer to the centerline than the stock wheels. This would essentially push the wheel further away from the car. You wheels may stick out from the wheels wells. Width of the wheels also plays into it also.

Find out what the offset is for your current wheels then go from there. If you want the same look in regards to how far in or out the wheel sits in the well then stick with the same offset. If you want them farther out then decrease the offset on the new wheels.

http://http://cocomponents.com/deale...set-explained/

PeteinPA

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Thank You LS430Nole. This is very helpful.

CJITTY

The whole point of the sticky thread shows what offsets people are running, tire sizes and whether or not it rubs on their suspension setup along with pictures to show how the wheel sits on the car. If ALL of that information which is listed isn't enough, then I don't know what else to say. The amount of PMs I get thanking me for starting the thread and how much it helped them goes to show that folks are using the information provided. I'm not sure what other information you could possible add to make it more informative. I do realize some folks left out offsets because they simply don't know and that is understandable, but plenty of others have. Sorry the info wasn't enough for you, but others seemed to appreciate and found it very helpful. can't win em all I guess

If you want to learn more about wheel 101, then some basic google searches would of yielded tons of information to help. Tirerack.com has a pretty good tech 101 section about wheels and offsets, etc. The sticky thread is as good as what people feed into it, some provide more details than others. Aristo, there are plenty of 22" wheel posts with all items filled out that should be more than enough to go on IMO. Sometimes, folks don't take the time to review each post because they are simply too lazy, not saying that is you or the OP, but plenty of folks on CL simply put no effort in searching and just post redunant questions all the time and never contribute anything back. Playstation Generation I suppose..

CJITTY

So other than folks not taking the time to fill in some of the details, what constructive feedback do you have would make the thread better? I went back and looked at the folks with 22s and the tire sizes and offsets are posted on what works in many of them. You looked at all the posts with those of us with 22s? There isn't much room to work with back there and the tire sizes are all pretty much well stated as I look through the sticky thread. My posts outside of the wheel sticky with my own 22 wheel experiences go into great detail including the 245/255/265 30/22 front sizes and 295/305 25/22 rear sizes...the information is there and should help you quite a bit

PeteinPA

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CJ, please do not misunderstand my intent. I did in fact read every post in that thread. I was just hoping to get a little better educated by those who understand things like offsets and the engineering principles behind them and could put them into terms I could understand.

This could be perceived as being lazy or ignorant on my part, but in the end it is my philosophy that it would be more ignorant to not ask the question then to be stuck with bad fitment or having to try and return wheels shipped from across the country.

CJITTY

I hear ya..but I stated above this wasn't directed at you as the original poster (OP). It's good to be educated on the terms associated with wheels, but having real world examples with pics is one of the best ways to know what to ask for. The thread is designed for that exact reason. I have had a few different wheels on my 460 and 600 and have about 5 posts..my hope was that everyone would be as detailed as me. Search on my other wheel posts..lots of write ups on my 20s and 22s that may help you

LXurious

Offsets are still hard to understand I had have it explained a few times before I learned,

PeteinPA

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The last sentence in LS-Nole's put it in perspective for me. I just needed a little direction. CJ, I will read through your other posts as well.

Thanks everyone.

CJITTY

Good luck on your wheel choice. At least you are doing your homework unlike some who just buy wheels and find out they don't fit correctly at all.

Aristo300

The sticky thread is awesome. However, there are so many variables when trying to get ultra specific with fitment in regards to tire sizes, suspension, offsets, etc. I'm just saying that the thread is more of a "general" resource for information...... nothing is exact, most people's setups are different in some way. I will most likely consult you or another Vet in this section when I finally narrow down my wheel search. I'm having a hard time finding staggered 22's with proper fitment.

CJITTY

Glad you found it somewhat helpful, that's better than nothing for sure. I'm not sure why you are having a hard time finding 22s with proper fitment when many of us are running 22s with fitments that do not cause issues and we have posted in the thread. Some feel that shaving or rolling fenders to accomodate lower offset and wider wheels is proper fitment. For me, I don't want to do that. For me, my 22x9 front with 30 offset and 255/30/22 tires and 22x10.5 rear with 38 offset with 305/25/22 results in a fitment that is nearly flush with no rub unless I lower my car's oem air suspension significantly down. I am not sure what look you are going for, but i am more conservative with how my wheels fit. I don't want to hack up my fenders to make some wheels fit because at some point I'm selling the car. So, my specs work perfect for me.. In all reality, I think a 25 or 27 offset would of been a little better for my fronts just to flush them a little more, but I have 3mm hubcentric spacers that can accomplish that change from 30 to 27, but I keep forgetting to bring them when I go to the wheel shop and I don't feel like doing it at home lol

Here are the 22 inch wheel posts with all the info you should need..and yes, I'm trying to drive the point home because if you don't get enough intel out of these 24 posts about the 22s listed below with the exact setups they are using, I don't know what else I can possibly tell you lol. ...maybe I'm missing something here but I'm right now with your comments about not enough info if you read everything contained in the posts below. I cannot make it any clearer that these are real world examples, you can't get any better than that

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6840534-post4.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6840917-post6.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6849485-post9.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6874661-post12.html (My post)
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6988295-post16.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6991604-post17.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7046935-post21.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7373453-post30.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7440845-post31.html (Me Again)
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7524311-post34.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7532438-post35.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7609813-post39.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7731046-post44.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7774110-post47.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7777752-post48.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7809333-post50.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7899375-post52.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7943801-post55.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7966478-post56.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/7981819-post57.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/8035236-post59.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/8074701-post61.html (Me Again)
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/8107730-post62.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/8151085-post63.html

PrinceAkim

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I'm not sure about others, but the sticky thread definitely helped me choose the right offset for my LS when choosing my wheels. I read through and used the different pics and details to choose the offsets.

roadfrog

My post on there was with a set of 20's in a staggered setup. I posted the offset as well as pics. Since 20's is what you're after, you should check it out. FWIW, my car is not lowered.