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Old 05-11-14, 05:28 AM
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Hello all, I am looking at a 2011 LS460 and metered the paint. the hood as been painted came in at 8.5 mils. the finders where 6.5 mils. The finders looked like original paint, is 6.5 mils the correct paint reading for original paint on the finders?
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That all sounds like original paint. If it had been painted, you would be measuring more like 12-15mil. Were the fenders a horizontal or vertical measure?
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Originally Posted by sktn77a
That all sounds like original paint. If it had been painted, you would be measuring more like 12-15mil. Were the fenders a horizontal or vertical measure?
The hood had been painted 100%, the orange peel was slightly different than rest of the car (one of the best jobs I have seen, took me 30min to notice it). The 6.5 mils was on the horizontal part of the finder next to the hood.
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The LS460 is wet sanded so that's one way to know if it has been repainted.
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Originally Posted by GXAlan
The LS460 is wet sanded so that's one way to know if it has been repainted.
Can you elaborate a little more?
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Originally Posted by GXAlan
The LS460 is wet sanded so that's one way to know if it has been repainted.
Interestingly, not necessarily. My body shop did extra wet sanding and buffing on my LS precisely for this reason (i.e., I wouldn't take it with the "standard" amount of orange peel).
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Originally Posted by caha14
Interestingly, not necessarily. My body shop did extra wet sanding and buffing on my LS precisely for this reason (i.e., I wouldn't take it with the "standard" amount of orange peel).
of course. but if the body shop does it's own wet sanding then it's a good body shop. .

New BMWs have very thin paint. they are <80 microns in many areas. Lots of orange peel.

At least for the upper portions of the car, there should be almost no orange peel provided that the clear coat is well corrected. Lexus does a great job, especially the LS.
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Originally Posted by GXAlan
of course. but if the body shop does it's own wet sanding then it's a good body shop. .

New BMWs have very thin paint. they are <80 microns in many areas. Lots of orange peel.

At least for the upper portions of the car, there should be almost no orange peel provided that the clear coat is well corrected. Lexus does a great job, especially the LS.
Excellent body shop, though it took a couple of mildly heated conversations to make it happen.

I always used to notice orange peel but have much more since I had the work done on the LS, and it's funny you mention BMW, because I've noticed
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What are the proper stages for painting body kit for LS?
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Originally Posted by Barron009
The hood had been painted 100%, the orange peel was slightly different than rest of the car (one of the best jobs I have seen, took me 30min to notice it). The 6.5 mils was on the horizontal part of the finder next to the hood.
They must have taken the hood down to bare metal. Even then, for a non-robotic finish, that's pretty good. What did they wet sand, the color coat? Clearcoats are usually less than 2 mil and color sanding (wet sanding) is usually not done.
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http://www.toyotanewsroom.com/articl...rticle_id=1241

New Production Processes Ensure Highest-ever Quality

Lexus developed a build process specifically for the new LS line at its award-winning assembly plant in Tahara, Japan. With remarkable levels of fit, finish, and refinement – achieved through the combined skill, knowledge, and pride of Lexus master craftsmen (called "takumi") and advanced technology – the LS models exemplify "world's best."

For example, the painting process was thoroughly changed from the previous-generation LS. During the application of alternating layers of paint and coatings, each L is hand-sanded twice in key areas. This process smoothes and refines the painted surfaces and enhances the deep, mirror-like quality of the finish. New six-axis buffing robots with three-dimensional movements were built so that curved surfaces and ends can be polished as well.
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2010/08/0...ster-of-paint/
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It's funny you shared this; I actually had to provide this (and a couple other things I found) to the insurance company via the body shop in order for them approve the expense for extra sanding and buffing beyond what they had already done. The car looks great; let me know if you would like to swap the F-sport for a "vintage" 460L
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