Traded my 430 and picked up a 460L
#16
Bushings/control arms are covered under the CPO warranty. I don't think it's uncommon for dealerships to certify the car, knowing there is work that needs to be done but that way Lexus picks up the tab instead of the dealership. Don't get unpleasant with them, just get all the front control arms replaced, to meet the PA inspection requirements, and be thankful you have the CPO. Take the next major service offer - its a $1200 service (60k) and you don't want to foot that bill. At the price you paid, you're still way ahead of the game!
#17
Just a follow up on the car. Have owned it since 6/14 and it now sits with 77K miles. Put about 27K on the car in less than a year. Two weeks ago the ABS/Traction/VSC code flashed. I figured a wheel speed sensor so I took her in for service. I also heard a slight clicking and wanted them to check it out.
Turns out it was a speed sensor. And it needed more suspension work... While the car was there the tech noticed that it was leaning a bit lower on the passengers side. He decided to replace the front drivers strut. They had the car for 10 days...
End result was a new speed sensor, wheel hub and bearing, front strut, and it looks like the some bushings in the control arms... Keep in mind that I had all control arms replaced at 53K miles.
They also did a fuel system recall and hit me for a fuel throttle body cleaning ($80 out of pocket). I asked them to change the oil. They said "no charge as we owe you an oil change for CPO" I said PLEASE put synthetic oil in her. I will pay the difference. The said "sure". Of course when I picked up there was no charge for the oil upgrade. I asked about it and they said "uhh.. we put synthetic in see" and pointed to the line item on the invoice that stated "synthetic blend oil"......Really?
Just to summarize:
Bought the car in May of 14' with 50K miles CPO in NJ
Took the car to PA and needed to get it inspected for PA. During inspection the shop noticed that it needed all new control arm bushings. I took it to a Lexus dealer who asked me how a dealer sold me this car with this issue?? They did a nice job on the car to the tune of $5K in warranty repairs.
Two months ago I hear a loud clicking noise... Take her in and it's the brake actuator $2000 repair covered under warranty.
Two weeks ago more issues.. take her in and $3000 worth of warranty work....
Wow.. I know that they are not billing the warranty company these actual figures but it's hard to imagine a car needing this much work. I don't drive it hard. My last LS (02' lasted years without any major work).
I may need to go back to the 430
Turns out it was a speed sensor. And it needed more suspension work... While the car was there the tech noticed that it was leaning a bit lower on the passengers side. He decided to replace the front drivers strut. They had the car for 10 days...
End result was a new speed sensor, wheel hub and bearing, front strut, and it looks like the some bushings in the control arms... Keep in mind that I had all control arms replaced at 53K miles.
They also did a fuel system recall and hit me for a fuel throttle body cleaning ($80 out of pocket). I asked them to change the oil. They said "no charge as we owe you an oil change for CPO" I said PLEASE put synthetic oil in her. I will pay the difference. The said "sure". Of course when I picked up there was no charge for the oil upgrade. I asked about it and they said "uhh.. we put synthetic in see" and pointed to the line item on the invoice that stated "synthetic blend oil"......Really?
Just to summarize:
Bought the car in May of 14' with 50K miles CPO in NJ
Took the car to PA and needed to get it inspected for PA. During inspection the shop noticed that it needed all new control arm bushings. I took it to a Lexus dealer who asked me how a dealer sold me this car with this issue?? They did a nice job on the car to the tune of $5K in warranty repairs.
Two months ago I hear a loud clicking noise... Take her in and it's the brake actuator $2000 repair covered under warranty.
Two weeks ago more issues.. take her in and $3000 worth of warranty work....
Wow.. I know that they are not billing the warranty company these actual figures but it's hard to imagine a car needing this much work. I don't drive it hard. My last LS (02' lasted years without any major work).
I may need to go back to the 430
#19
Thanks BT3100 for the update. Sorry to hear about all the issues you have on this car. Good part is, all covered by CPO and you got new 'components' .
Just curious, why would control arm be replaced second time?. Did they forgot to use revised part when they fixed at first time?.
Just curious, why would control arm be replaced second time?. Did they forgot to use revised part when they fixed at first time?.
#22
Today I was driving up the NJ turnpike to NY and at ext 11 the "check tire pressure system" light flashed.
I will never bash these cars. I've owned a 94' LS, an 00' LS an 02' LS and now this 08' LS.
They are GREAT cars.. not good, but GREAT cars. The car I now have, has issues. To need $10K worth of repairs in less than a year is unacceptable.
I just reread this thread and I am appalled to read someone stating that Lexus dealers would certify a car that they knew needed repairs.
What the hell is that?
Certified means it's in excellent condition and ready to go. Not ready to be serviced by the poor sucker who bought her. I worked in the auto repair industry for 18 years. I would have never bought a used car for $30K that I needed to crawl under to insure that the bushings weren't rotted. Some people on here are brainwashed by the logo on the hood. Demand excellence not mediocrity.
That speaks volumes for the certification process.
I will never bash these cars. I've owned a 94' LS, an 00' LS an 02' LS and now this 08' LS.
They are GREAT cars.. not good, but GREAT cars. The car I now have, has issues. To need $10K worth of repairs in less than a year is unacceptable.
I just reread this thread and I am appalled to read someone stating that Lexus dealers would certify a car that they knew needed repairs.
What the hell is that?
Certified means it's in excellent condition and ready to go. Not ready to be serviced by the poor sucker who bought her. I worked in the auto repair industry for 18 years. I would have never bought a used car for $30K that I needed to crawl under to insure that the bushings weren't rotted. Some people on here are brainwashed by the logo on the hood. Demand excellence not mediocrity.
That speaks volumes for the certification process.
Last edited by BT3100; 03-25-15 at 08:28 PM.
#25
Don't rule it out.
One of the happiest automotive days in my life was the day I looked in my rear view mirror at my pos 2010 LS460L as I drove away from the Lexus dealership in my new used 04 LS430. Haven't regretted it for even one second.
One of the happiest automotive days in my life was the day I looked in my rear view mirror at my pos 2010 LS460L as I drove away from the Lexus dealership in my new used 04 LS430. Haven't regretted it for even one second.
#27
Today I was driving up the NJ turnpike to NY and at ext 11 the "check tire pressure system" light flashed.
I will never bash these cars. I've owned a 94' LS, an 00' LS an 02' LS and now this 08' LS.
They are GREAT cars.. not good, but GREAT cars. The car I now have, has issues. To need $10K worth of repairs in less than a year is unacceptable.
I just reread this thread and I am appalled to read someone stating that Lexus dealers would certify a car that they knew needed repairs.
What the hell is that?
Certified means it's in excellent condition and ready to go. Not ready to be serviced by the poor sucker who bought her. I worked in the auto repair industry for 18 years. I would have never bought a used car for $30K that I needed to crawl under to insure that the bushings weren't rotted. Some people on here are brainwashed by the logo on the hood. Demand excellence not mediocrity.
That speaks volumes for the certification process.
I will never bash these cars. I've owned a 94' LS, an 00' LS an 02' LS and now this 08' LS.
They are GREAT cars.. not good, but GREAT cars. The car I now have, has issues. To need $10K worth of repairs in less than a year is unacceptable.
I just reread this thread and I am appalled to read someone stating that Lexus dealers would certify a car that they knew needed repairs.
What the hell is that?
Certified means it's in excellent condition and ready to go. Not ready to be serviced by the poor sucker who bought her. I worked in the auto repair industry for 18 years. I would have never bought a used car for $30K that I needed to crawl under to insure that the bushings weren't rotted. Some people on here are brainwashed by the logo on the hood. Demand excellence not mediocrity.
That speaks volumes for the certification process.
Also the only peace of mind a CPO offers is the warranty. The rest is just CPO-hype.
#28
Today I was driving up the NJ turnpike to NY and at ext 11 the "check tire pressure system" light flashed.
#29
I suspect his problem might be a sensor losing communication (from a dead sensor battery) or some other TPMS issue, given the "Check TPMS" warning as opposed to a "Low Pressure" message. Very intrigued...
#30
The next day I started the car and no sensor. I toggled through and the pressure in all tires was fine.
I was scheduled to replace the tires and did so and no more issues.
Hope it was just a communication issue between the pressure sensors and the ecu.
With the recent repairs and new tires hoping that the car will deliver long term trouble free miles.
Love the brand and the car. Just want it to perform!
I was scheduled to replace the tires and did so and no more issues.
Hope it was just a communication issue between the pressure sensors and the ecu.
With the recent repairs and new tires hoping that the car will deliver long term trouble free miles.
Love the brand and the car. Just want it to perform!