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Old 12-16-15, 11:03 AM
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Hey Guys,


One of my local dealers has a pretty nice 13 LS460 with 29k on it, and are selling it for $48.5 It seems like a good deal to me cause the high end of KBB is almost $52 for the features this has. However I checked out the Autocheck the dealer provided to me and there is a Manufacturer Buy Back listed on the vehicle. Was there any other issues y'all have seen like this for this year? If so is this still is it an issues that should prevent me from buying the car? I took a 20 minute test drive and had no issues, I know that isn't that long. Just trying to get some opinions here.


http://www.blaisealexander.com/Used-...PA/vd/27319501 Here is the car if you wanna take a look for yourself.
Old 12-16-15, 11:14 AM
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Buy back, as in Lemon Law? If so, I would stay as far away from that as possible.
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Since the car is relatively new, and still under factory warranty (and even if it wasn't), you should take a look at the Mylexus/Lexusdriver website and see what has been done to the car.
I wasn't aware that the term "buy back" was/could be associated with the Lemon Law.
Performing some thorough research on this car would be serve to be quite beneficial.
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Looking at the service history, it only shows a bad battery when it was new, and the drivers door wouldnt open once. It does list it as a manufacturer buy back but makes no mention as to why. Strange. Appears to be bare bones though. Doesn't even look like it has ML.


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hmmmm... but the service history stops december last year
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Well . . . if you have a gut feeling, follow it.
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Originally Posted by sapstar66
hmmmm... but the service history stops december last year
Then drove 13K+ miles in 8 months, without any Lexus service.
Not that that is unheard of, but there isn't any listing of service history, so you're left to assume that the owner went the indy route for oil/filter changes, and whatever else.
Why not go to Lexus when the car is practically brand new, still in warranty?
I'm wondering if this car was a company car...
But yes, I am in agreement with R Z.
Unless you can have these questions answered, follow your guy and walk away.
Other LS's out there.
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From what I understand this dealer has had the vehicle for quite a few months and had originally bought it for one of their "Higher Ups" to drive. That may explain why the history stopped. So did the buyback/lemon law have to do with the battery? I don't think a battery would cause that kind of action but I'm not sure...
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Originally Posted by 460fanboy
From what I understand this dealer has had the vehicle for quite a few months and had originally bought it for one of their "Higher Ups" to drive. That may explain why the history stopped. So did the buyback/lemon law have to do with the battery? I don't think a battery would cause that kind of action but I'm not sure...
No way. The battery was replaced at like 300 miles, and then again. Unless there was underlying electrical demons that arent mentioned, there was another reason for it.

In my opinion, other 13's arent much more than this one. At a minimum, I would call corporate and inquire why this was a buy back.
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A car with this mileage and in good condition is usually a "keeper" for a dealer so they can sell/lease it as a CPO car...... Do your homework if you want to buy this.
Personally I would pass on this "buy back" and spend a little more on a CPO.

BTW! Nice looking car!!
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Originally Posted by CRowe14
Since the car is relatively new, and still under factory warranty (and even if it wasn't), you should take a look at the Mylexus/Lexusdriver website and see what has been done to the car.
I wasn't aware that the term "buy back" was/could be associated with the Lemon Law.
Performing some thorough research on this car would be serve to be quite beneficial.
Agree......all this info could make for some very profitable negotiation. I wouldn't necessarily walk away if I was armed with this information.
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"Buyback" is standard Lemon Law terminology. There were many "buybacks" for wind noise, probably over 1,000 cars. It was a hot topic in our discussions several years ago.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ml#post5516911

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ml#post5539270

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ack-input.html

I suspect that Lexus does nothing to the buybacks and just sells them at auction. If they knew how to fix them they would have done that to avoid the buyback. A "buyback" notation is required in the title but that usually disappears through a title wash. You can probably find out the reason for buyback by contacting the State AG where that happened.

It seems very clear that this car had 3 battery events, at 416 mi, 2709 mi and 3424 mi. It only takes 3 documented cases of the same problem to seek resolution through state lemon law statutes.

Cars do not cause batteries to fail and in this case the batteries were probably just discharged but not defective. The art of testing a car battery seems to have been lost, or perhaps, because of the low cost, it is more expedient to just replace the battery.

The most likely genesis of this debacle is the doorjamb switch on the driver's door.

The buyback notation in the car's history may haunt you when you decide to sell it. These "buyback" cars are usually sold at major discounts and someone is probably making a substantial profit on this deal and they will probably find someone who doesn't know what buyback means. Tell them you know what buyback means and ask for a much lower price.
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