Trying to decide betw. 2015/16 LS FSport
01-23-16, 09:36 AM
#31
I'm of the "let someone else take the depreciation hit" variety. I bought a 2012 CPO LS for $40,000 less than its window sticker price last May, and have been more than happy with it. If I did want to sell it, it would be like I had been driving a $400/month lease because the depreciation curve has flattened out so much. Very, very satisfying.
01-23-16, 10:25 AM
#32
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To each their own. I like them new.
02-01-16, 11:02 PM
#33
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The OP is coming from a GS owned for many years and stated he was concerned about resale value.
Neither a BMW or MB will hold the resale value from the prices out there. And, too many problems even if covered by a warranty.
The confusing exchange is on handling - the LS is a big car and while the F Sport has a fun suspension hard to imagine it would out perform a GS-F or an RC-F.
Tough comparing across the models when they offer different features. Wait a year and get the LC500????
Neither a BMW or MB will hold the resale value from the prices out there. And, too many problems even if covered by a warranty.
The confusing exchange is on handling - the LS is a big car and while the F Sport has a fun suspension hard to imagine it would out perform a GS-F or an RC-F.
Tough comparing across the models when they offer different features. Wait a year and get the LC500????
Other than that the GS 350 is a great car
02-01-16, 11:07 PM
#34
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I am often puzzled by this: Assuming wealthy folks are financially savvy, who in their right mind would purchase a German 100K+ car only to see it depreciate to 30% or more of it's original value in 5 years and break down multiple times over the course of those 5 years, needing vastly expensive repairs which oddly enough all happen on the day the warranty runs out?
I have leased a 120K+ German cars, but I would never purchase one...
I have leased a 120K+ German cars, but I would never purchase one...
ANd therein lies my fear. As I stated earlier - I bought a 2009 S63 AMG in late 2009 for $125k, drove it for about 4 years and by late 2013 I decided to sell with barely 12k miles .....because it just felt dated (mainly the interior nav, etc). The car was in SHOWROOM condition. Leather even smelled brand new. Not a speck on the car.
Could not even get 65k! Ended up selling it to a dealership for $62k
02-02-16, 07:34 AM
#35
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Have you driven a new GS? The platform and handling, ride and dynamics are much improved over your 08.
02-02-16, 09:03 AM
#36
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Just want a bigger car... with a better road presence....and with German-like handling (yeah, I know I know... but hoping LS FSport can give me some BMW-like handling)
02-02-16, 10:49 AM
#38
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Bada bing bada boom!
ANd therein lies my fear. As I stated earlier - I bought a 2009 S63 AMG in late 2009 for $125k, drove it for about 4 years and by late 2013 I decided to sell with barely 12k miles .....because it just felt dated (mainly the interior nav, etc). The car was in SHOWROOM condition. Leather even smelled brand new. Not a speck on the car.
Could not even get 65k! Ended up selling it to a dealership for $62k
ANd therein lies my fear. As I stated earlier - I bought a 2009 S63 AMG in late 2009 for $125k, drove it for about 4 years and by late 2013 I decided to sell with barely 12k miles .....because it just felt dated (mainly the interior nav, etc). The car was in SHOWROOM condition. Leather even smelled brand new. Not a speck on the car.
Could not even get 65k! Ended up selling it to a dealership for $62k
I personally prefer the lovely smell of previous depreciation in a used car when I ride down the road. I for one, do not want to buy something that loses a considerable amount of money the moment I drive it off the showroom floor. In fact, chances are when you drive a used one off the parking lot, it's worth less. It's a car.
02-02-16, 11:01 AM
#39
A car is not an investment, unless you held on to your 57 Chevy or such. When you buy a vehicle, it's nothing more than a place to get from point A to point B. How you look when getting from point A to point B is the question. Depending on your tax bracket, you can ride in a variety of vehicles. One of which is a Lexus LS460. Some can afford to buy new off the showroom floor, other can not. Hence, the sweet deals on used rides.
I personally prefer the lovely smell of previous depreciation in a used car when I ride down the road. I for one, do not want to buy something that loses a considerable amount of money the moment I drive it off the showroom floor. In fact, chances are when you drive a used one off the parking lot, it's worth less. It's a car.
I personally prefer the lovely smell of previous depreciation in a used car when I ride down the road. I for one, do not want to buy something that loses a considerable amount of money the moment I drive it off the showroom floor. In fact, chances are when you drive a used one off the parking lot, it's worth less. It's a car.
02-03-16, 05:59 PM
#40
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I look at it this way: I just bought a 2014 LS460 F-Sport w/ 5k miles for $30k less than it original sold for 2 years ago. People ask me, hey did you buy a new car? My answer is yes I did, only the minute I bought it someone came up to me and offered me $1,250 a month a drive it just 50 miles a week for 2 years so I said sure thing! I just got it back the other week. It actually still has the new car smell as well.
02-03-16, 06:01 PM
#41
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Atomic silver didn't come on the LS until 2016. No cabernet on the LS F Sport at all. in 2013 the F Sport only came with black, 2014-2016 it can be had with Flaxen as well.
02-08-16, 12:04 AM
#44
Is this a good deal? It's not CPO.... click here
02-09-16, 09:41 AM
#45
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