2013 LS460L in for a ton of miles.... Costs, maintenance, additions and problems.....
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“What year was that Buick? If it was a 1996 it got the updated 3800 S/C with 240/280. Ultimate sleeper. I saw one just like yours a few weeks back and posted it in an "under appreciated survivor" FB group and it got tons of hate, but a decent amount of love. I would drive a car with that engine happily, still today.
That thing would roast half of today's cars off the line or from a slow roll assuming you don't roast the tires”
You know your Buick’s! Unfortunately it was a 95 so it had the series 1 supercharger. Still was the 3800 sleeper but parts for the Series 1 were discontinued and I’d have to do a bunch of searching for the supercharger parts which is the parts that started giving trouble towards the end. I wanted to swap it for a Series 2 or 3 but I figured I’ll let someone else try that.
I’m 45 years old and back when I was in my senior year (94) and after HS I worked at a Buick dealer on cars as a class B/C tech while I was going to General Motors school. Never actually followed through on that career but I worked for the dealer for about three years. When this car came out, I couldn’t get over how nice of a car they were. I got the luxury of transporting these from Jersey to Ling Island, NY at times (only 18 years old) and I couldn’t believe how much power these things had. I always wanted one from back then and so I ventured out and found this one. Parts are ultra cheap, easy to work on car and it actually got 28 mpg on the hwy. Heated seats, rear dim mirror, quad horns, supercharged, dual zone climate, soft close trunk, air ride rear suspension which I replaced and the compressor still worked. This car was ahead of it’s time. I added Apple car play and a nice system to it and wired in a 360 max radar detector so I had all the creature comforts of today’s car. It was fun but the ES purchase was inevitable after a few months of messing with it. Great cars and the guy who bought it still has it as he’s a local here in Charlotte.
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thanks for sharing. I heard Porsche has the best handling and driving. My next cars will be electric. If I have the means, I am choosing between the Benz EQS, Porsche Taycan or Tesla Model S. No more spark plug changes. Yes I changed spark plugs on my 2007 LS 460, what an experience. No more oil changes, air filters, O2 sensors, PVC valve, etc on an electric car.
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DavidinCT (03-16-21)
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“What year was that Buick? If it was a 1996 it got the updated 3800 S/C with 240/280. Ultimate sleeper. I saw one just like yours a few weeks back and posted it in an "under appreciated survivor" FB group and it got tons of hate, but a decent amount of love. I would drive a car with that engine happily, still today.
That thing would roast half of today's cars off the line or from a slow roll assuming you don't roast the tires”
“What year was that Buick? If it was a 1996 it got the updated 3800 S/C with 240/280. Ultimate sleeper. I saw one just like yours a few weeks back and posted it in an "under appreciated survivor" FB group and it got tons of hate, but a decent amount of love. I would drive a car with that engine happily, still today.
That thing would roast half of today's cars off the line or from a slow roll assuming you don't roast the tires”
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...rtrJQ1iU5h0cqM
"On the move, the Touring Sedan exhibits a torquey authority from the low-tech 3800 Series V6, combined with silent, seamless automatic shifts. It's more than fast enough to keep up with modern traffic, and it can return economy-car mileage numbers when driven carefully. There has been a lot of effort expended in the past ten years to make the current crop of turbo-four-bangers work as well in daily driving as this 31-year-old powertrain does, and most of that effort has been unfulfilling."
That last sentence is legit.
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mmade22 (09-14-22)
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Some people really enjoy doing their own maintenance. For instance, I mow my own lawn and all of that and I can afford someone to do that, I just prefer to do it myself.
#111
Very enjoyable thread!!!
MMade22, if I ever made my way to North Carolina -- the 1-owner-before-me 2013 L that I purchased was originally sold by, and serviced at, Hendrick -- would you be willing to teach me a thing or two about maintaining/"operating on" my vehicle? I'm mesmerized by some of the tear-down images, and efforts.
I'll generalize this a bit to those in, or closer to, Massachusetts - anyone willing to guide me a bit in-person/on-site on maintaining my vehicle?
I love DIY stuff; I've done some on other cars; and I'm reasonably smart, and handy. But, in general, people in this section of CL take things to another level. And, if/when I have the need, I'd like to be able to at least realistically consider whether I'd want to engage something involving.
PMs are fine with me on this, as I don't want to take this thread off topic; although, I believe my post is relevant to the general spirit of this thread.
MMade22, if I ever made my way to North Carolina -- the 1-owner-before-me 2013 L that I purchased was originally sold by, and serviced at, Hendrick -- would you be willing to teach me a thing or two about maintaining/"operating on" my vehicle? I'm mesmerized by some of the tear-down images, and efforts.
I'll generalize this a bit to those in, or closer to, Massachusetts - anyone willing to guide me a bit in-person/on-site on maintaining my vehicle?
I love DIY stuff; I've done some on other cars; and I'm reasonably smart, and handy. But, in general, people in this section of CL take things to another level. And, if/when I have the need, I'd like to be able to at least realistically consider whether I'd want to engage something involving.
PMs are fine with me on this, as I don't want to take this thread off topic; although, I believe my post is relevant to the general spirit of this thread.
#112
I've been on a similar car model journey the past 14 years. Started with an ES300, RX330, ES, LS, ESh, ES, Mercedes E350, Mercedes GLK and back to an LS. Mercedes are nice cars with great options and engineering, but more expensive to maintain. My current LS460 hasn't needed more than tires, brakes and fluids. I'm alone in my car and don't drive much as I'm retired. But an LS is hard to beat for comfort and dependability. If I relocate to FL from CA, I'll get an RX so I can tow a small boat and fish my Golden Years away. The LS is perfect for the cross county drive.
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I love DIY stuff; I've done some on other cars; and I'm reasonably smart, and handy. But, in general, people in this section of CL take things to another level. And, if/when I have the need, I'd like to be able to at least realistically consider whether I'd want to engage something involving.
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bdw (08-31-21)
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mmade22 is very much like myself. I will do everything possible myself before I take my car into the Lexus dealer or any other mechanic shop. After reading thru this thread, I can see that mmade22 is very mechanically inclined and can take on most automotive tasks. So oil changes are a no-brainer for most here in this forum, but it seems most people who buy an expensive car like an LS460 would take their cars in for service. Even the basics...
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Lol give it time, we were the same way when we bought our house. But our yard is a slight PITA. Just sold my mower.
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Do you wash your own car too ? I still do.....but then I am old school. And yes, I cut my own grass.....and yes, I clean and maintain my own pool...and, yes, I still climb my palm trees to trim them
mmade22 is very much like myself. I will do everything possible myself before I take my car into the Lexus dealer or any other mechanic shop. After reading thru this thread, I can see that mmade22 is very mechanically inclined and can take on most automotive tasks. So oil changes are a no-brainer for most here in this forum, but it seems most people who buy an expensive car like an LS460 would take their cars in for service. Even the basics...
mmade22 is very much like myself. I will do everything possible myself before I take my car into the Lexus dealer or any other mechanic shop. After reading thru this thread, I can see that mmade22 is very mechanically inclined and can take on most automotive tasks. So oil changes are a no-brainer for most here in this forum, but it seems most people who buy an expensive car like an LS460 would take their cars in for service. Even the basics...
I wash my own cars sometimes. I do my own detailing but I dont love actually washing cars.
As for them being expensive, a 2013 LS460L is 8 years old at this point, going on 9...no longer an expensive car. I would agree most people who buy a 80k+ car new don't do their own maintenance but you will find people that do.
Originally Posted by AJT123
Lol give it time, we were the same way when we bought our house. But our yard is a slight PITA. Just sold my mower.
Thats the key to me, I do what I like doing and don't do what I don't like doing.
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Same here. Been mowing since I was a kid. It's enjoyable, easy since I own a 0 lot home, and doesn't take too long. I also maintain my bushes. If I can do something I do it. I change all the faucets, replace toilets, repair sheet rock, paint, etc in my home. Why? Because I can. I can't work on a car so I leave it to the pros. But if I could I would.
There are household chores I like, I like pressure washing the side of my house and cleaning gutters, pulling vines. Mowing, after you get a mower you never go back. At least we won’t.
#120
Same here. Been mowing since I was a kid. It's enjoyable, easy since I own a 0 lot home, and doesn't take too long. I also maintain my bushes. If I can do something I do it. I change all the faucets, replace toilets, repair sheet rock, paint, etc in my home. Why? Because I can. I can't work on a car so I leave it to the pros. But if I could I would.
Originally Posted by AJT123
didn’t mind at first and our neighbor sold us their riding lawn mower for like $200. We sold the push mower we had when we bought riding. It was old but worked fine but started to fall apart just normal cheap things. So then it’s like ok great how do I mow my yard? So I have to go rent a trailer and sign 70 things at Home Depot and deal with all that to tow it somewhere to wait a month for it to be fixed. Our lawn guy is cheapppp and great.
When you use other peoples old discarded stuff, you have issues.
This is also why I like my electric lawnmower and yard tools. No maintenance.