2018 Lexus LS Revealed!!
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dlbuckls10 (01-25-17)
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It will be LWB only.
I think you overestimate how price conscious people in this segment actually are. It's an all new car, it's thoroughly modern, really nice inside. I'm sure it will be great to drive, people will buy them. Lexus and particularly LS owners have a lot of brand and model loyalty.
I think you overestimate how price conscious people in this segment actually are. It's an all new car, it's thoroughly modern, really nice inside. I'm sure it will be great to drive, people will buy them. Lexus and particularly LS owners have a lot of brand and model loyalty.
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aypues (01-25-17)
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i sold the 2013 LS to make room for this one... 2018 is going on sale in the last quarter of this year. my only nit pick is the stalks/***** above the cluster. the rear quarter panel on back look avalon, camry or even infinity... that said i will purchase white as usual, unless they have a dark shade of blue... DSM maybe.
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i sold the 2013 LS to make room for this one... 2018 is going on sale in the last quarter of this year. my only nit pick is the stalks/***** above the cluster. the rear quarter panel on back look avalon, camry or even infinity... that said i will purchase white as usual, unless they have a dark shade of blue... DSM maybe.
When the first LS460 came out in 07, everyone said it looks like the E65 7 series. My brother in law had one at the time and I took it with me for an early glimpse of the LS at the toyota museum to compare it..........they look NOTHING alike (except maybe the "bangle butt"-the crease from the trunk).
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Maybe I am overestimating the impact of price, but usually when people spend a lot of money, they want it to look like they spent a lot of money. The Lexus LS brand just doesn't have the same snob appeal of the S Class or 7 Series. If offered the S Class of the LS for the same money, I find it hard to believe that the vast majority wouldn't pick the S Class. I certainly would.
The S Class is simply the benchmark and it is utterly staggering the number of safety and luxury innovations that first saw the light of day from this series. That said, the W220 era (98-2006) really did a huge amount of damage to the perception of solidity and reliability and I truly feel for those who spent often six figures to only see both stratospheric depreciation and or exceedingly high running costs.
That said, since the de-Chryslerification, MB really has been doing well. Especially the stuff made in Germany. I do think the stuff made in Alabama is not quite there and my mother's 2014 ML has been a disaster. Worse still, she even owned a first gen ML430 that I thought would have been enough misery to turn her off the ML's.
If one had skipped over the W220 and say went from the iconic W140 to the vastly improved 2007-2013 W221, then I have almost zero doubt that there would not even be consideration of purchasing an LS or any other alternative for that matter.
That said, many did buy an S Class between 1998 and 2006 and many of them will neither forgive nor forget. This is not to say they were all lemons, but that era certainly has a stigma.
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I owned a '05 S class and it was constantly at the MB dealer for repairs and it was a (over $25K in warranty repairs) lemon. I owned a '90 MB SEL prior to it and it was almost trouble free. My LS 460L is the best and most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Lexus is the definition of reliability compared to most vehicles I've owned.
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I owned a '05 S class and it was constantly at the MB dealer for repairs and it was a (over $25K in warranty repairs) lemon. I owned a '90 MB SEL prior to it and it was almost trouble free. My LS 460L is the best and most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Lexus is the definition of reliability compared to most vehicles I've owned.
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The S Class is simply the benchmark and it is utterly staggering the number of safety and luxury innovations that first saw the light of day from this series. That said, the W220 era (98-2006) really did a huge amount of damage to the perception of solidity and reliability and I truly feel for those who spent often six figures to only see both stratospheric depreciation and or exceedingly high running costs.
That said, since the de-Chryslerification, MB really has been doing well. Especially the stuff made in Germany. I do think the stuff made in Alabama is not quite there and my mother's 2014 ML has been a disaster. Worse still, she even owned a first gen ML430 that I thought would have been enough misery to turn her off the ML's.
If one had skipped over the W220 and say went from the iconic W140 to the vastly improved 2007-2013 W221, then I have almost zero doubt that there would not even be consideration of purchasing an LS or any other alternative for that matter.
That said, many did buy an S Class between 1998 and 2006 and many of them will neither forgive nor forget. This is not to say they were all lemons, but that era certainly has a stigma.
That said, since the de-Chryslerification, MB really has been doing well. Especially the stuff made in Germany. I do think the stuff made in Alabama is not quite there and my mother's 2014 ML has been a disaster. Worse still, she even owned a first gen ML430 that I thought would have been enough misery to turn her off the ML's.
If one had skipped over the W220 and say went from the iconic W140 to the vastly improved 2007-2013 W221, then I have almost zero doubt that there would not even be consideration of purchasing an LS or any other alternative for that matter.
That said, many did buy an S Class between 1998 and 2006 and many of them will neither forgive nor forget. This is not to say they were all lemons, but that era certainly has a stigma.
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I can say without any hesitation my ML350 has been the worst reliable car I have ever owned. I could have leased a new one and been way ahead on dollars I lost on repairs and depreciation. Piece of crap, although its a nice driving car like the BMW's when they are running. The only reason I keep it is because you can't give one away and I have something to drive other than my LS460 in the snow since my wife doesn't give up her 4 Runner .
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If only Lexus offered a manual in the LC500... Given how hard Toyoda is trying to change both companies perceptions, it would seem to me a no brainer. While the uptake rate would be small, it would mean a great deal to many enthusiasts and the automotive press would go bonkers.
I do remain baffled as to why Lexus developed an all new V6TT for the LS500 as seemingly the (all but assured) only non hybrid option. While no doubt the engine will eventually be seen on down the line, to be introduced on a model that was exclusively V8 since 1989?
I do remain baffled as to why Lexus developed an all new V6TT for the LS500 as seemingly the (all but assured) only non hybrid option. While no doubt the engine will eventually be seen on down the line, to be introduced on a model that was exclusively V8 since 1989?