Is the 460L to big in the rear passenger area?
#16
Racer
There is no visible difference in the door. Watch this youtube video for a demo of the auto door closer feature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKrgJjF2fAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKrgJjF2fAU
Maybe I have the feature but, it's just not working.
#17
I believe there were no changes in "L" standard features between 2007 and 2008. You might have a bad fuse?
See following thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...r-problem.html
See following thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...r-problem.html
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DavidinCT (06-08-17)
#18
Racer
I believe there were no changes in "L" standard features between 2007 and 2008. You might have a bad fuse?
See following thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...r-problem.html
See following thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...r-problem.html
#19
#20
Pole Position
We got the L because that is what the LS was the got dropped into our lap. Had our friend sold me her SWB 2010 LS 460 AWD and bought a new one I would be driving a SWB. I now have a L (which I love) and have driven her SWB on several long road trips and given the choice I would take the L every time. I must say that if I was buying a LS 460L with the intension of parking it outside I would hope a friend would tell me I needed to get my head examined. If the DW truly loves you she will understand when you ask her to park her car outside.
Dennis
Dennis
#21
See attached specification for 2008 LS460 which confirms that the power door closing WAS standard on a 2007 L (states: Items in bold are new for 2008). Good luck with finding the issue with the power door closing, please report back.
#22
Lexus Fanatic
I don't know that theres any such thing as "too much interior room". I chose not to get the LWB because the SWB barely fits into my garage as it is, and its already a big car. For instance my SWB LS460 and my minivan are exactly the same length, the LWB is 4 inches longer.
I actually just test drove a LWB car for a member here he was looking to buy which was almost identical to my SWB car, same color and all too, no air suspension on either one. Driving they really are almost exactly the same. The extra room in the back in nice, not a must have for me.
I actually just test drove a LWB car for a member here he was looking to buy which was almost identical to my SWB car, same color and all too, no air suspension on either one. Driving they really are almost exactly the same. The extra room in the back in nice, not a must have for me.
#23
I continue to keep an eye out for a LS460 to upgrade to within a year or so. I'm 6' 5"/300 and one of the things that has made me fall in love with the LS over say a GS is the room. I can take 4 adults similar sized to me in my LS430 and not have to move my drivers seat up to give the person in the rear more room.
That being said, I would think a 460L would be the way to go but I've never been in one. Sometimes when I look at pictures of cars for sale with the L version it looks like way too much room. I'm a little concerned that if my kids ride in the back they'll feel like they way too far away from the front.
That being said, I would think a 460L would be the way to go but I've never been in one. Sometimes when I look at pictures of cars for sale with the L version it looks like way too much room. I'm a little concerned that if my kids ride in the back they'll feel like they way too far away from the front.
If there was ONE feature I could have is the Dynamic Cruse control but, Lexus made the feature unavailble to people in the "snow belt" (as it does not work with SNOW on the car)and no models were sold with the feature in 2007-2008 accept for LS600HL. TRUST ME, I did my homework here....
Power door closer standard ? Was it the same in 2007 ?
Mine does not have it, at least I dont know if it does and just doesn't work (or is disable). Is there a visable differnce in the door or anywhere to show if you have the feature ?
Power door closer standard ? Was it the same in 2007 ?
Mine does not have it, at least I dont know if it does and just doesn't work (or is disable). Is there a visable differnce in the door or anywhere to show if you have the feature ?
The soft close doors were part of the "One Touch Open/Close Power Trunk & Power Door Closers" option priced at $395.
And as an aside, the "Intuitive Parking Assist" was a $500 option. Most expensive parlor trick I've ever purchased!
#24
Instructor
Thread Starter
The only time I got her to move her car out side is when I bought a brand new 2010 Camaro and that was in Feb 2010 when they weren't common. I will say she drove that one as much as I did so it was kind of a his/her car. Also, my '69 Camaro is taking up one of the spots and without a doubt it will always have a spot in the garage over any car I own.
Last edited by caverman; 06-08-17 at 03:19 PM.
#25
Pole Position
I have a '10 L. Here are my thoughts:
1) Who are you trying to make comfortable? If you're concerned based on your height that your seat will be really far back and limit leg room for rear passengers (and you frequently have rear passengers), get the L. Without knowing how old and big your kids are, it's hard to imagine their legroom will be impacted whatsoever in the SWB. The LS in general is a very large car. That being said, you can guarantee there won't be an issue for a rear passenger of any height if you have the L. It's an insane amount of room. I hunted for a 460 for about 18 months and took my wife to see no fewer than 8 460's that I thought I would buy. She didn't like any of them...until we sat in an "L" - and we bought it 2 days later. Even though it's my car, I wanted her to like it because she occasionally drives it. She hated my 430 so I didn't want to have something else that she complained about driving occasionally.
2) I have young kids and the only pain about the L is reaching back from the driver seat to help them out of their car seats. It's a pretty far stretch to reach them. However, I love that it's difficult for them (not impossible) to kick the back of the front seats.
3) I don't live in a major city and never have to do street and/or parallel parking. If I did, I'd probably skip out on an L because I think it would make it easier to consistently park. Again, the LS is already a large car.
4) Someone else commented on the difference in driving the LWB vs. the SWB in "sport" mode. This is only available on cars that have the air suspension FYI.
5) It's 5 extra inches, not 6.
6) Keep an eye out for an L in your area for sale- anywhere from a 2007 to a 2017 and go look at it and take your kids. Even if you're looking for a '07-'09, looking at a newer one ('13 + ) will still give you a general feel for the rear legroom.
7) The extra room in the back comes in handy on road trips for storing bags, etc. without it feeling too cramped for your kids. For me, this is actually a big bonus that I wasn't anticipating.
These additional thoughts are 100% subjective and just my personal opinion.
1) I think the L rides better than the SWB. Others on here have commented that they don't feel a difference, but I have racked up about 1,000 miles in a family member's 2012 SWB and I can tell a difference compared to my 2010 L.
2) I appreciate the feel and look of the semi-anilene leather and the different headliner material in the L. This may be an option on the SWB, but to my knowledge it is standard on the L (my L has nav, Levinson, 19" 5 stars, but no air ride and no rear exec seating package- so it's not the top of the line).
3) I don't like the L in the '07-'12 body unless it has the 19" 5 star wheels. I think a car of that length needs those wheels to improve the stance. Watching an L cruising down the road with those wheels is beautiful thing..!
The good news is you will be happy with a SWB or a LWB 460 because the 460 is just an awesome car. Take your time and find the right car that hits your budget, is a color you like or can live with, and has been really well maintained. I didn't care one way or the other about an "L" and hadn't seen one until the one we bought. Now that I have it, I have a feeling it would be hard to go back to the SWB just because I really appreciate the extra space and think the ride is superior.
1) Who are you trying to make comfortable? If you're concerned based on your height that your seat will be really far back and limit leg room for rear passengers (and you frequently have rear passengers), get the L. Without knowing how old and big your kids are, it's hard to imagine their legroom will be impacted whatsoever in the SWB. The LS in general is a very large car. That being said, you can guarantee there won't be an issue for a rear passenger of any height if you have the L. It's an insane amount of room. I hunted for a 460 for about 18 months and took my wife to see no fewer than 8 460's that I thought I would buy. She didn't like any of them...until we sat in an "L" - and we bought it 2 days later. Even though it's my car, I wanted her to like it because she occasionally drives it. She hated my 430 so I didn't want to have something else that she complained about driving occasionally.
2) I have young kids and the only pain about the L is reaching back from the driver seat to help them out of their car seats. It's a pretty far stretch to reach them. However, I love that it's difficult for them (not impossible) to kick the back of the front seats.
3) I don't live in a major city and never have to do street and/or parallel parking. If I did, I'd probably skip out on an L because I think it would make it easier to consistently park. Again, the LS is already a large car.
4) Someone else commented on the difference in driving the LWB vs. the SWB in "sport" mode. This is only available on cars that have the air suspension FYI.
5) It's 5 extra inches, not 6.
6) Keep an eye out for an L in your area for sale- anywhere from a 2007 to a 2017 and go look at it and take your kids. Even if you're looking for a '07-'09, looking at a newer one ('13 + ) will still give you a general feel for the rear legroom.
7) The extra room in the back comes in handy on road trips for storing bags, etc. without it feeling too cramped for your kids. For me, this is actually a big bonus that I wasn't anticipating.
These additional thoughts are 100% subjective and just my personal opinion.
1) I think the L rides better than the SWB. Others on here have commented that they don't feel a difference, but I have racked up about 1,000 miles in a family member's 2012 SWB and I can tell a difference compared to my 2010 L.
2) I appreciate the feel and look of the semi-anilene leather and the different headliner material in the L. This may be an option on the SWB, but to my knowledge it is standard on the L (my L has nav, Levinson, 19" 5 stars, but no air ride and no rear exec seating package- so it's not the top of the line).
3) I don't like the L in the '07-'12 body unless it has the 19" 5 star wheels. I think a car of that length needs those wheels to improve the stance. Watching an L cruising down the road with those wheels is beautiful thing..!
The good news is you will be happy with a SWB or a LWB 460 because the 460 is just an awesome car. Take your time and find the right car that hits your budget, is a color you like or can live with, and has been really well maintained. I didn't care one way or the other about an "L" and hadn't seen one until the one we bought. Now that I have it, I have a feeling it would be hard to go back to the SWB just because I really appreciate the extra space and think the ride is superior.
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#26
Lexus Fanatic
1) I think the L rides better than the SWB. Others on here have commented that they don't feel a difference, but I have racked up about 1,000 miles in a family member's 2012 SWB and I can tell a difference compared to my 2010 L.
In any event, both ride great and if you weren't constantly comparing the two back to back you would not hurt for any added ride. This is my opinion about the air suspension also.
#27
Lexus Fanatic
Most expensive parlor trick I've ever purchased!
#28
Instructor
Thread Starter
I'm not quite ready to buy yet but this is almost exactly what I would look for. I like the maroon, 5-spoke chrome, and rear spoiler. This one is priced a bit high IMO even though it has low miles..
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...delCode1=LS460
What is the color of this interior? I would take it with that color but I like the little more tan I've seen.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...delCode1=LS460
What is the color of this interior? I would take it with that color but I like the little more tan I've seen.
Last edited by caverman; 06-08-17 at 08:40 PM.
#29
Lexus Fanatic
That color isnt maroon, FYI, it's quite red, candy apple red really.
That interior is parchmemt. There isn't a tanner color those years, there is a lighter color, alabaster.
Also that's an L without the semi aniline leather option we had discussed being standard on the L, look at the door armrests.
That interior is parchmemt. There isn't a tanner color those years, there is a lighter color, alabaster.
Also that's an L without the semi aniline leather option we had discussed being standard on the L, look at the door armrests.
Last edited by SW17LS; 06-08-17 at 09:08 PM.