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Old 08-27-19, 09:55 AM
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I might suggest if you get this code on the dash that you clear the codes with a scanner and disconnect the battery. Then drive it across town to a carwash and see if you get the codes again. My 2007 LS 460 car has 206K and we replaced a $2500 pump at 70K when I bought it used as a non-certified car five years ago. Start with disconnecting the battery which was the first reply to the original question.
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So my 2010 460L dash just lit up like a Christmas tree with beeps to go along with the lights.... found this thread. It looks like the ZLG warranty is going to protect me if it is a bad actuator since my car was produced in July 2010, so "10 years after first use" would be July 2020, and my car has 101k miles which is below the 150K threshold. "The Primary Coverage offers warranty enhancement until December 31, 2017, regardless of mileage.After the Primary Coverage end, the Secondary Coverage is applicable for 10 years from the date of first use, or150,000 miles, whichever occurs first." Does anyone here know the difference between "primary coverage" and "secondary coverage" under the ZLG warranty?

Here's my question - it's a bit of a pain for me to get to my Lexus dealer and I'd like to try to get the car taken in tomorrow or Saturday. If I take it to Toyota to get them to check the error codes, is there a way that they can check the codes without "clearing them"? I don't want the codes cleared if Toyota verifies that it's a brake actuator issue because I'll have to have Lexus verify the codes so they can fix it according to the warranty verbiage.

Appreciate any tips.


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Old 11-21-19, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
So my 2010 460L dash just lit up like a Christmas tree with beeps to go along with the lights.... found this thread. It looks like the ZLG warranty is going to protect me if it is a bad actuator since my car was produced in July 2010, so "10 years after first use" would be July 2020, and my car has 101k miles which is below the 150K threshold. "The Primary Coverage offers warranty enhancement until December 31, 2017, regardless of mileage.After the Primary Coverage end, the Secondary Coverage is applicable for 10 years from the date of first use, or150,000 miles, whichever occurs first." Does anyone here know the difference between "primary coverage" and "secondary coverage" under the ZLG warranty?

Here's my question - it's a bit of a pain for me to get to my Lexus dealer and I'd like to try to get the car taken in tomorrow or Saturday. If I take it to Toyota to get them to check the error codes, is there a way that they can check the codes without "clearing them"? I don't want the codes cleared if Toyota verifies that it's a brake actuator issue because I'll have to have Lexus verify the codes so they can fix it according to the warranty verbiage.

Appreciate any tips.
if you dont have a ELM device where you can pay for carista trial and read your own codes.. then you can tell them you do not want them cleared... if you can find an ELM wifi on amazon if you have same day willl cost 20 bucks,, ends up being cheaper than toyota reading codes for you...
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Got the call earlier today that my 2010 460L (July production) has suffered the fate of the brake actuator issue. At first, the advisor was informing me of it with the cost being $3,600 to repair. I said "well, that will be covered by Lexus warranty under the ZLG program." He seemed caught off guard, mentioned the system "normally" notifies him of an eligible warranty program based on the VIN and the part(s) needed for repair. I'm skeptical, I think they make more money doing a private repair than what Lexus reimburses them for a warranty repair, but maybe I'm wrong.

Nonetheless, add me to the list... 2010 with 101K miles and a bad actuator.
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Old 11-25-19, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
Got the call earlier today that my 2010 460L (July production) has suffered the fate of the brake actuator issue. At first, the advisor was informing me of it with the cost being $3,600 to repair. I said "well, that will be covered by Lexus warranty under the ZLG program." He seemed caught off guard, mentioned the system "normally" notifies him of an eligible warranty program based on the VIN and the part(s) needed for repair. I'm skeptical, I think they make more money doing a private repair than what Lexus reimburses them for a warranty repair, but maybe I'm wrong.

Nonetheless, add me to the list... 2010 with 101K miles and a bad actuator.
Curious if you’ve ever done a brake fluid flush before?
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Originally Posted by Sportznuts
Curious if you’ve ever done a brake fluid flush before?
I have not done that since I purchased the car almost 3 years ago at 70k miles. I don't recall whether or not that was done by the prior owner - I did check the service history but mainly to see if anything major had popped up and just making sure routine maintenance was done at proper intervals. Does that lower the odds of brake actuator failing?
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Just got my car back from having actuator replaced under ZLG program warranty. For those interested, the only symptom I noticed (about 4 weeks ago) was a high-pitch scraping noise from the front as I would drive very slowly (5mph or less). I noticed it for the first time going through a bank drive thru and then heard it several other times as well. I just assumed my brakes were in need of replacement. Apparently that is one of a few signs of a bad actuator.
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I've referred to the noise as a high pitched squawking sound when I press on the brakes hard. When I did a brake fluid reservoir flush and fill, the noise never came back. I decided from that point on to do the brake flush every time I did my oil change. Mine was a 2008 LS460 with 105,000 btw. It has a new owner as of Sept 2019

I believe the brake fluid brakes down to a point and may trigger the warning code. Once the code is activated it cannot be cleared. Kind of like the Mercedes SBC brake warning, but I've heard there is a device you can buy to delay that warning
Old 12-03-19, 07:34 PM
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Ok-here is my current situation. 2011 460 RWD with a replaced brake actuator in 2018. I have the check VSC and brake malfunction lights that come off and on sometimes daily, sometimes every few days. this back/forth has lasted 2-3 months. Even with lights on, do not notice brakes acting any different. i cant figure out what actual problem is. any advice??
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Damn, @225K miles, I just found out I'm going to have to put in my 2nd ABS control module at $2.8K! Last one was only about 4 years ago. #myLastLexus
Old 12-04-19, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sjzack
Damn, @225K miles, I just found out I'm going to have to put in my 2nd ABS control module at $2.8K! Last one was only about 4 years ago. #myLastLexus
Is that a quote from dealer? If so, did try an independent shop? The oem (brand new) part from eBay is ~$1100...
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