2017 Lexus LS460 Normal or Abnormal Problems? Lemon?
#16
Lemon Laws vary by state but the spirit applies to "substantive defects". Unfortunately, other than the stalling which can't be reproduced, I don't think any of the OPs complaints qualify as "substantive" (but annoying, yes). Take the car to a different dealer - these issues can easily be fixed. Take their loaner until they are.
Some of you are lucky to have multiple Lexus dealers close by but I think the OP said he drove 70+ miles to the dealer. People, that's 1.5+ hours of driving, 3+ hours trip. Will Lexus comp you for these times to get the car fixed?
#17
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Again that you all for the insight. A few things I’ve attached pictures of the sunroof seal as I committed to, a little late but they are here. When I dropped it off with the dealer yesterday a tech went for a test drive with me, we heard nothing of the noise. The tech suggested next time I hear the noise to touch the brakes, he said he has had multiple issues recently across the board on Lexus cars where the brakes will run and vibrate at high speeds, by touching the brakes it should stop the noise instantly. Since I haven’t had the warm fuzzy with this dealer in the past I elected to talk half day off of work and bring the car back today. On my way home last night the noise came back and I touched the brakes and the noise went away briefly and came back instantly after letting off the brake pedal. So the tech is probably right, I didn’t shave any speed I just touched the brakes a little harder than lighting up the lights. As for the running issues it didn’t surface during the test drive. I am sitting in the dealership while writing this. We’ll see what they come back with. But so far it seems like the brakes are making that noise.
#18
Lexus Fanatic
That sunroof seal looks pretty normal to me. That particular seal is prone to fading and cracking, which doesn’t really affect its function just its appearance. Mine looks the same way. Dealer should replace it under warranty if it really bothers you.
#19
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
I personally don’t see anything wrong with it either, however someone asked for a picture of it. I don’t know how Lexus uses this seal but on old Mercedes the seal didn’t do much it was more so to keep out large debris. The water to my knowledge would get through there are 4 channels in all of the pillars for the water to leak by around the sunroof and you got leaks of those channels were plugged.
#20
Here's the cure for that, go look at the other LS cars on the lot and see if they have the same lumps. If they don't, then it's not normal.
#22
Sorry to hear about your problems getting a response from the dealer. I’ve heard that California has some very consumer-friendly Lemon Law regulations. Even mentioning that you are considering filing a Lemon Law complaint when you speak to Lexus Corporate is enough to light a fire.
#23
Update? Sorry im kinda intrigued on how lexus would deal with this. So for my experience with lexus has been far from good. I traded in my 2011 acura tl shawd with NO problem for a cpo fsport that now need a new roof liner cuz of wind noise and is going to cost me 120$ to do. They are going to cover the part but i have to cover labor(wtf!) I didnt even got a chance to make my first car payment yet and now I got to get this fix. ****ty ****,sorry for the rant.
Mike
This is how mine look.
Mike
This is how mine look.
#24
Lexus Test Driver
I'm late to the game, but I'm glad just touching the brakes was mentioned because that's what it sounds like to me.
Wind noise should be variable.
Wind noise should be variable.
#25
Pole Position
Update? Sorry im kinda intrigued on how lexus would deal with this. So for my experience with lexus has been far from good. I traded in my 2011 acura tl shawd with NO problem for a cpo fsport that now need a new roof liner cuz of wind noise and is going to cost me 120$ to do. They are going to cover the part but i have to cover labor(wtf!) I didnt even got a chance to make my first car payment yet and now I got to get this fix. ****ty ****,sorry for the rant.
Mike
This is how mine look.
Mike
This is how mine look.
#26
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Good morning! So I wanted to give an update having my car back. The brakes took care of the whistling noise, however my headliner per Lexus is normal, they can’t duplicate the bumper noise and don’t feel as though there is anything wrong with my bumper and they can’t duplicate the engine running issues. However I was pulling out of the service drive when I picked it up and did it pulling out on to the street, scared me, lost power briefly the tachometer showed the engine rev up and then it came back to life. Has anyone had these running issues? I’ve been driving my old 2003 Solara with 270,000 miles because that experience scared me it having traffic coming at my side and losing power. As of right now it’s been about a week and I haven’t received any return calls or email from Lexus and my car is parked. I don’t want to pursue the lemon law option yet I just want my car fixed but who knows I may have to, it’s brand new I should be able to feel confident driving it. If anyone has had these same running issues and they were able to get it fixed your input would be valuable. That is where I am at though.
#27
Racer
iTrader: (1)
i really think you should get a GoPro or a Dash cam and install it so that it shows your front dash of the car also.
Perhaps then the dealer will believe you.
From the sound of things, sounds like you got a "Friday car"....... The robots/humans in Japan were rushing to finish your car build by 5pm before a holiday weekend.
Perhaps then the dealer will believe you.
From the sound of things, sounds like you got a "Friday car"....... The robots/humans in Japan were rushing to finish your car build by 5pm before a holiday weekend.
#28
Pole Position
Good morning! So I wanted to give an update having my car back. The brakes took care of the whistling noise, however my headliner per Lexus is normal, they can’t duplicate the bumper noise and don’t feel as though there is anything wrong with my bumper and they can’t duplicate the engine running issues. However I was pulling out of the service drive when I picked it up and did it pulling out on to the street, scared me, lost power briefly the tachometer showed the engine rev up and then it came back to life. Has anyone had these running issues? I’ve been driving my old 2003 Solara with 270,000 miles because that experience scared me it having traffic coming at my side and losing power. As of right now it’s been about a week and I haven’t received any return calls or email from Lexus and my car is parked. I don’t want to pursue the lemon law option yet I just want my car fixed but who knows I may have to, it’s brand new I should be able to feel confident driving it. If anyone has had these same running issues and they were able to get it fixed your input would be valuable. That is where I am at though.
#29
Lexus Fanatic
i really think you should get a GoPro or a Dash cam and install it so that it shows your front dash of the car also.
Perhaps then the dealer will believe you.
From the sound of things, sounds like you got a "Friday car"....... The robots/humans in Japan were rushing to finish your car build by 5pm before a holiday weekend.
Perhaps then the dealer will believe you.
From the sound of things, sounds like you got a "Friday car"....... The robots/humans in Japan were rushing to finish your car build by 5pm before a holiday weekend.
#30
Lexus Fanatic
The “Friday Car” has s just a figure of speech.
Never heard of or had the drivability issues you’re describing...could that be a transmission flare or mis shift? I might try disconnecting the battery for 30 mins to clear out the shift points.
Never heard of or had the drivability issues you’re describing...could that be a transmission flare or mis shift? I might try disconnecting the battery for 30 mins to clear out the shift points.
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