alexsystem

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satiger

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Sorry to hear all these issues with your car.

Trunk lid : few times in the past when I open the truck with key fob, it opens an inch or two and stops. I will have to give a manual push to open that fully. Not like your - i.e auto closes. I asked Lexus to check the trunk motor and assembly. They reported no issues, couldn't replicate as well no codes. So told them that I try to capture video next time when that happens. The only problem is its very random. I will have to turn on camera every time I opens the trunk hoping to capture this issue

Rough idling: what type of gas do you use?. Is it normally driven on highways or short local drives?. I personally wouldn't add additives but if I have to I will try Sea Foam. I had good results using Sea Foam on other two Lexus.

Headliner : never heard that issue regardless of Lexus models.

Wind noise : is it fixed or still an issue?.

FatherTo1

I agree that you've been quite patient with Lexus and respectful in your posts. SW17LS has provided a lot of help to others over the years, myself included, and has been a good source of knowledge. That said, several have taken issue with SW17LS's delivery and style of communication. I took offense early on too, years ago, but over time have realized there is truth to his words if I read it objectively. Despite that, I disagree with his advice to trade the car in. Money doesn't grow on trees and I would be upset even if those issues crept up on an used CPO LS, let alone a new LS.

Shad and SW17 are correct though, alexsystem, that your issue(s) unfortunately are extremely rare. I honestly have never seen the headliner issue across our 2 LSes, 2 RXes, and 2 ESes in the family, and also never saw it in previous Toyotas nor Hondas either. Something is definitely not right with the headliner and not normal to me. The possessed trunk is also something I have not seen or read about before. Loose body panels could be due to loose clips but I would expect Lexus to correct that without much resistance. I have received a complementary tranny drain-and-flush plus use of a 2016 loaner RX during the same visit when I brought in an LS 430 last year (Roseville Lexus, CA) and so I am even more mystified by the treatment you've received from multiple Lexus dealerships. I was surprised how well Lexus treated me considering I don't regularly get service at the dealership. I feel for you and wonder if you saw my post #53 about reaching out to the California Bureau of Automotive Repair and filing a case with them? Best of luck to you, alexsystem, and hope you eventually reach a resolution to your satisfaction.

roadfrog

Nor did I. Steve is always helpful, which sometimes involves brutal honesty.

I agree with what he says, particularly with expending so much energy on battles with cars. In my case, my previous BMW took up so much of my time, I finally thought, "that's it, time to get rid of it and move on. This drama is killing me". I then traded it in on my LS and never looked back.

TexasTea

The youtube video of the trunk opening and closing appears like the LS460 may be parked on a sloped driveway with the front raised higher than the rear. Maybe there is some trunk lid sensor or maybe the trunk lid motor is not powerful enough to raise the trunk lid with the extra raised up angle. I am guessing that the Lexus dealer service is opening the trunk on a flat surface and is not able to replicate the problem which may be due to the front being elevated.

TexasTea

The Youtube video of the front passenger-side bumper rattling sounds like an unattached bumper clip, or an unsecured fog light/round sensor electrical wire, or maybe a lodged pebble may be rattling around in the bumper area. Maybe the Lexus dealer service can probe around the passenger underside of the bumper and worse case remove the front bumper to see what could be causing the rattling.

Kennyr44

Kennyr44

FatherTo1

I agree that it is an interesting observation, but I imagine many owners take groceries out of the trunk on a regular basis on a sloped driveway. My expectation is Lexus would have designed the trunk mechanism to cope under severe angles. If the trunk lid struggles on inclines then I would expect to see many more complaints from owners. If they can design an e-brake to hold a heavy LS on steep San Francisco streets then Lexus can surely design a trunk that stays open under the same conditions. Maybe whatever is leaking and causing the headliner lumpiness is also causing some moisture damage to sensors or electrical contacts near the trunk. I would pay the expense to have an independent mechanic document and root-cause the issue(s) and then fight to have Lexus re-imburse the cost under warranty and perform the correct repairs. Perhaps also record the trunk issue on level ground to rule out inclines.

jmcraney

I watched your video of your trunk problem. It seems to me that the likely cause of that is a defective lift strut. The lift struts are usually reliable for a few years but occasionally they fail prematurely, because of manufacturing defects. You might try showing your video to a dealer and asking them to replace both lift struts, just to move the issue along - it might work.

Kennyr44

Another good observation. Our bran new Jeep Grand Cherokee's automatic tailgate did this same thing only intermittently also. So infrequently I didn't believe my wife till it happened to me. I took it in and told them it was intermittent. They opened and closed it a couple times and said cannot duplicate and gave me the car back. I walked into the service managers's office and told him it has happened to me twice and I'm not leaving till you agree to replace the struts, motor or whatever. He said ok and ordered a pr strut that fixed it when I returned the next week. Its been a year now and has never failed again.