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Old 02-13-18 | 01:37 PM
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I agree. Have you seen the new Camry?? Not your Grampa's Camry anymore. My issue with the Accord is reliability. They've dropped in the ratings A LOT recently. It is no longer a "recommended" car by Consumer reports
That is mainly do to their touch screen/nav systems and how annoying they are to use from previous version, it is not just Accords that tumble mainly from reviewers not liking the interaction systems, it is Acura's, Cadillac's, Fords, etc. The basic reliability of Accords is still very solid though the 2.0 turbo engine is pretty new so it is unknown how reliable it will be. I would bet the Accord is going to be more reliable then a KIA and has much less potential expensive issues then a used LS. The new Accord with the 2.0 is very quick, quicker then the Camry 6 cylinder which I find puzzling, Camry must be poorly geared for acceleration.
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Originally Posted by UDel
That is mainly do to their touch screen/nav systems and how annoying they are to use from previous version, it is not just Accords that tumble mainly from reviewers not liking the interaction systems, it is Acura's, Cadillac's, Fords, etc. The basic reliability of Accords is still very solid though the 2.0 turbo engine is pretty new so it is unknown how reliable it will be. I would bet the Accord is going to be more reliable then a KIA and has much less potential expensive issues then a used LS. The new Accord with the 2.0 is very quick, quicker then the Camry 6 cylinder which I find puzzling, Camry must be poorly geared for acceleration.
I have a 15 yrs old Honda Accord V6 with 223K miles that I purchase new and I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across country today. Its been more reliable than my 460 and its still going strong.
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Thats what I was kind of thinking.

Personally if I'm going the Kia/Hyundai route, I'd get myself a G90. Now that thing looks like an amazing car. Saw one at the Boston car show and I must say I found it to be the most impressive car there.

Having spent a week of seat time in a new G90...All I can say I was glad to get back to LEXUS.
It has it all on paper - the features, the power...but not the refinement.

Great car - but not for me.
Old 02-13-18 | 07:20 PM
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The Kia Stinger is on a shortened G80 platform.

Regardless, I can't drop that kind of money on a car from a company which uses furries as spokescritters.

Even the G90 is nice, but $70K+ for a Hyundai? Nope!
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Originally Posted by UDel
That is mainly do to their touch screen/nav systems and how annoying they are to use from previous version, it is not just Accords that tumble mainly from reviewers not liking the interaction systems, it is Acura's, Cadillac's, Fords, etc. The basic reliability of Accords is still very solid though the 2.0 turbo engine is pretty new so it is unknown how reliable it will be. I would bet the Accord is going to be more reliable then a KIA and has much less potential expensive issues then a used LS. The new Accord with the 2.0 is very quick, quicker then the Camry 6 cylinder which I find puzzling, Camry must be poorly geared for acceleration.
Love the new Accord, don't see many on the road but the few I have seen look fantastic. The rear end - which I thought I wouldn't like - has turned out to be my favorite...just so wide...kind of reminds me of an A7. Nice interior, performance, fuel economy. Kind of shocked I'm not seeing many on the road.
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That is mainly do to their touch screen/nav systems and how annoying they are to use from previous version
Actually it's because of massive and widespread failures of their transmissions. That and driveability issues in extreme cold (stumbling).
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Originally Posted by roadfrog
Actually it's because of massive and widespread failures of their transmissions. That and driveability issues in extreme cold (stumbling).
I have not heard of any issues with the auto transmissions in Accords unless you go back to the old 5 speeds from a couple generations ago, maybe the CVT's have some issues but the 2.0 is not paired with the CVT.
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I know we have different needs, lifestyles, preferences etc.. .... but for the price of the KIA you can :

-buy a 2013+ LS460
-buy a 2006+ Bentley continental (sedan or coupe)
-buy a 2013+ supercharged jaguar (sedan or coupe)
-buy a show room condition muscle/classic car
-buy a dodge viper
-buy a heavily modified corvette-mustang-camaro
-put a half payment down on a Lamborghini Gallardo -Audi R8 - Rolls Royce phantom etc...
-buy a boat and a truck to tow it
-buy a nice RV to travel
-etc.....

Buying a kia when you have so many other options, to me would seem like an egregious mismanagement of funds.

No offense
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
I know we have different needs, lifestyles, preferences etc.. .... but for the price of the KIA you can :

-buy a 2013+ LS460
-buy a 2006+ Bentley continental (sedan or coupe)
-buy a 2013+ supercharged jaguar (sedan or coupe)
-buy a show room condition muscle/classic car
-buy a dodge viper
-buy a heavily modified corvette-mustang-camaro
-put a half payment down on a Lamborghini Gallardo -Audi R8 - Rolls Royce phantom etc...
-buy a boat and a truck to tow it
-buy a nice RV to travel
-etc.....

Buying a kia when you have so many other options, to me would seem like an egregious mismanagement of funds.

No offense
Reading the OP's posts he does not want to put up with a unreliable sedan that will likely cost him a lot of money in repairs and maintanance, he got rid of his 7 series for a LS because of that so the Bentley Continental is out no matter how tempting, same with the Jaguar, Viper, Gallardo, R8, Rolls.
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I haven't driven one, but they are very nice. Totally different kind of car from an LS460, not my thing.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I haven't driven one, but they are very nice. Totally different kind of car from an LS460, not my thing.
Agree it's more of a competitor to the GS.
Old 02-15-18 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fb182
Agree it's more of a competitor to the GS.
Even more really The IS.
Old 02-17-18 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tec80
Call this odd, but I was very impressed by the 2018 Honda Accord 2.0t. It is as quick as a RWD LS460, but with better mileage and lower cost: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
Myself also,especially in blue.
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The wood looks very nice on the Accord: https://www.caranddriver.com/photo-g...est-gallery#48
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The new Accord is really nice, but it doesn’t drive or feel anything like the LS460. Any comparison is silly IMHO.


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