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Front control arm bushings FAIL AGAIN

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Old 12-04-18, 03:40 PM
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Here is the link for the bushings

https://www.armstrongdistributors.co...sb-460-461-463

The part number for the front uppers AND lowers is "PSB 460"

Good question regarding the awd and rwd , hope you can figure that out and post back, would be valuable info for the awd guys
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
Here is the link for the bushings

https://www.armstrongdistributors.co...sb-460-461-463

The part number for the front uppers AND lowers is "PSB 460"

Good question regarding the awd and rwd , hope you can figure that out and post back, would be valuable info for the awd guys
Thanks *****!
Could we use this thread to capture the links to the bushing suppliers that others have used as well?
It would be good to have them all in one thread.

The above link only addresses the front bushings. I did not see where they provide replacements for the rear bushings. would like to find sources for all of them .
Old 12-06-18, 08:09 AM
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While the new-to-me '12 LS 460 L is not yet on its way to me, I have a full set of front urethane bushes in a bag, ready to go. I'll update when I have both manufacturer info and have them installed.

It'll be a while, more than likely, with only 77k miles on the new car.
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
Here is the link for the bushings

https://www.armstrongdistributors.co...sb-460-461-463

The part number for the front uppers AND lowers is "PSB 460"

Good question regarding the awd and rwd , hope you can figure that out and post back, would be valuable info for the awd guys
hey its been a few months, how are your bushings doing? any squeaks noises etc anything at all?
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Originally Posted by jdanielca
hey its been a few months, how are your bushings doing? any squeaks noises etc anything at all?
all good, no squeaks or issues of any kind

I don't notice the ride to be any different either then the OEM, but maybe that's because I only did the front lowers and not the uppers

Hope other people can try them out and report back as well, to me this is the right way to go about it
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
all good, no squeaks or issues of any kind

I don't notice the ride to be any different either then the OEM, but maybe that's because I only did the front lowers and not the uppers

Hope other people can try them out and report back as well, to me this is the right way to go about it
thamks for getting back, don’t know when illl get around to doing mine but I shall post if I do.
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Tried the poly bushing route, turned to crap after a few thousand miles. Two of them are "squeezing" out of the control arm because they aren't designed to twist and flex like the OEM rubber ones. They clunk and squeak 100% of the time if the temperature drops below 50 or 60 degrees. Have to have music on so your passengers don't ask what is broken.

All the aftermarket arms for $30 on ebay are Chinese and will almost certainly fail again. There are quite a few product reviews that confirm the same.

Going back to OEM arms for sure. Keep your eyes peeled on ebay and you can find new OEM arms for around $200-$300 a piece.
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Originally Posted by TaninAuto
Tried the poly bushing route, turned to crap after a few thousand miles. Two of them are "squeezing" out of the control arm because they aren't designed to twist and flex like the OEM rubber ones. They clunk and squeak 100% of the time if the temperature drops below 50 or 60 degrees. Have to have music on so your passengers don't ask what is broken.

All the aftermarket arms for $30 on ebay are Chinese and will almost certainly fail again. There are quite a few product reviews that confirm the same.

Going back to OEM arms for sure. Keep your eyes peeled on ebay and you can find new OEM arms for around $200-$300 a piece.
did you use psb bushings from Armstrong or what Chinese fleabay stuff?
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Yep, used the PSB kit. They installed fine, just like any other poly bushing install. Before they worked their way out of the arm they still would squeak from day one. Hard to avoid that on poly bushings though. Awhile later I heard clunking at full lock. Then I looked and they were like the picture. They have been like that for probably two years now. Just been too lazy to order new OEM arms.

If anyone is interested in the lower kit PM me, I never used that one.





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Originally Posted by TaninAuto
Yep, used the PSB kit. They installed fine, just like any other poly bushing install. Before they worked their way out of the arm they still would squeak from day one. Hard to avoid that on poly bushings though. Awhile later I heard clunking at full lock. Then I looked and they were like the picture. They have been like that for probably two years now. Just been too lazy to order new OEM arms.

If anyone is interested in the lower kit PM me, I never used that one.



Ok cool I’m curious why you did not use the bushings with the stock control arms? Because now it’s hard to say if it’s the bushings or an issue with the install.. as far as I can tell they have to be install as someone else mentioned with the suspension at normal ride height before being torqued down... I might be interested in the bushings PM pls
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The upper bushings were installed in the upper control arms.There was nothing wrong with any of the lower OEM bushings so I didn't want to touch them.
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Judging from the "wound up" appearance of my car's lower bushings, Lexus torques the arms in the fully-extended suspension position during assembly at the factory.
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Originally Posted by TaninAuto
The upper bushings were installed in the upper control arms.There was nothing wrong with any of the lower OEM bushings so I didn't want to touch them.
eh that’s not what i meant, the way you phrased your post you made it sound like your control arms were after market too, are they stock or aftermarket?

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Oh, no. All of the control arms are factory. I pressed out the original failed bushings initially and then put the poly ones in.
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Originally Posted by TaninAuto
Oh, no. All of the control arms are factory. I pressed out the original failed bushings initially and then put the poly ones in.
understood.... hmmm wonder if I should go with febest...


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