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Old 02-10-19, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JLAWS
Ok to do a partial flush, i.e empty the fill reservoir and add fresh fluid? I've been doing that for years. The cars I've purchase usually have pretty clean brake fluid to begin with. I usually do it twice a year with oil changes
Probably not a great idea, you're only getting the top fluid out, the real damage is occurring in the calipers, where that fluid is baking everyday from the heat of the pads transferring through the caliper pistons (that's where you'll find the nasty stuff).

But don't feel bad, if you got your brake fluid "flushed" at a dealer, there's a good chance that's all you're getting anyway. The good old turkey baster treatment...just suck it out of the reservoir, clean off the bleeder valves with some brake clean (so it looks like you did something) and you're done in two minutes, paid an hour.

I once ran into a guy that would skim a half quart of oil every oil change he performed. The dealer began "counting" the amount of oil we pumped into cars, we'd have to go to the parts counter, tell them how many quarts we needed, and that's all we'd get. People were stealing oil out of the pumps so the dealership started doing this - well this guy still got his - he'd just pump a half quart into milk cartons he had in his bottom drawer, then use them when he did his own oil changes. Every car...half quart low...usually if you're getting your oil changed at the dealer you are not the type to go checking your oil, and if you did? Well he just made a simple mistake. Long story short...change your own fluids if you can.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase


Probably not a great idea, you're only getting the top fluid out, the real damage is occurring in the calipers, where that fluid is baking everyday from the heat of the pads transferring through the caliper pistons (that's where you'll find the nasty stuff).

But don't feel bad, if you got your brake fluid "flushed" at a dealer, there's a good chance that's all you're getting anyway. The good old turkey baster treatment...just suck it out of the reservoir, clean off the bleeder valves with some brake clean (so it looks like you did something) and you're done in two minutes, paid an hour.

I once ran into a guy that would skim a half quart of oil every oil change he performed. The dealer began "counting" the amount of oil we pumped into cars, we'd have to go to the parts counter, tell them how many quarts we needed, and that's all we'd get. People were stealing oil out of the pumps so the dealership started doing this - well this guy still got his - he'd just pump a half quart into milk cartons he had in his bottom drawer, then use them when he did his own oil changes. Every car...half quart low...usually if you're getting your oil changed at the dealer you are not the type to go checking your oil, and if you did? Well he just made a simple mistake. Long story short...change your own fluids if you can.
Well for Me I used around ten bottles ( 354mL*10) to flush out all the dirty old brake fluids and replace with new fluid.
Old 02-10-19, 08:20 PM
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+1 to changing the brake fluid. Just got it done at a dealer (i know, i know...laugh away!) and definitely makes a difference in term of braking "feel".
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Originally Posted by ALK
Well for Me I used around ten bottles ( 354mL*10) to flush out all the dirty old brake fluids and replace with new fluid.
That's why for 79 bucks, I let the dealer do it. Economically and "time is money", etc. Also, there are the elements I'd rather not deal with. I also don't have Techstream, so there's that.......
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Since this seems like the right thread to ask: WHY is Techstream required to flush/bleed brakes? I've done the same work on cars I've owned in the past and never needed any manufacturer specific software or tools.
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I understand you gotta pay to play, but Techstream isn't pouring brake fluid into the master cylinder and isn't drawing the fluid or pumping the brakes.
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Originally Posted by NotFasty
I understand you gotta pay to play, but Techstream isn't pouring brake fluid into the master cylinder and isn't drawing the fluid or pumping the brakes.
well for the Rear techstream enables it to pump by just holding the brakes then once you open the bleeder you will hear the pump turning on and as soon as you close the bleeder the pump will stop . The idea is to displace all the old fluid out. Check the attachment
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^Thanks for the PDF!

Did anyone use a Motive Bleeder? I want to get a Motive Bleeder but not sure which adapter would fit the LS proper. Any pointer would be great help!

I’m going to tackle this brake fluid change with Techstream.
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Originally Posted by Kuhan
^Thanks for the PDF!

Did anyone use a Motive Bleeder? I want to get a Motive Bleeder but not sure which adapter would fit the LS proper. Any pointer would be great help!

I’m going to tackle this brake fluid change with Techstream.
I've used the motive bleeder and had problems with it holding pressure with the cap that comes with it. I still managed to get the job done though. I purchased a different cap from suggestions on this forum and have not got around to using that yet. Recently I just purchased a suction bleeding device and will give that a try on the 400 since it's due for brakes.
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Originally Posted by sha4000
I've used the motive bleeder and had problems with it holding pressure with the cap that comes with it. I still managed to get the job done though. I purchased a different cap from suggestions on this forum and have not got around to using that yet. Recently I just purchased a suction bleeding device and will give that a try on the 400 since it's due for brakes.
Are you referring to a similar one like this?

https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-...der-92924.html

Old 08-20-19, 11:22 AM
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Nope, I just ordered one from Amazon that attaches top the bleeder screw and sucks the fluids out by the vacuum method.
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That one does the same method which is creating vacuum using air compressor. I’m going to stop by HF and see if they have one.
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Originally Posted by ALK
well for the Rear techstream enables it to pump by just holding the brakes then once you open the bleeder you will hear the pump turning on and as soon as you close the bleeder the pump will stop . The idea is to displace all the old fluid out. Check the attachment
Which direction did you go? Front left, front right, rear left, rear right? And does it have to be a 2-person job? Or can it be 1-person job with a vacuum bleeder?
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Originally Posted by Kuhan
Which direction did you go? Front left, front right, rear left, rear right? And does it have to be a 2-person job? Or can it be 1-person job with a vacuum bleeder?
Definitely 2 person .


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