07-17 LS460 Control Arms All Interchange: Videos Inside
09-25-22, 12:06 PM
#61
Thanks Striker223 for chiming in on that. One of the videos shows the differences very plainly.
I did research on this issue way before I ever bought my LS460. I was lucky and convinced the dealer to replace all of them or no deal. And they did. So I ended up with a hell of a car, all new front arms, new tires, new battery, all filters replaced inside and out and new wiper blades. The only bad is they used the old bad design arms that I will eventually have to replace. Been thinking of taking those arms down and stuffing full of heavy duty washers to fill that void but that's alot of work and may not be so effective as a solid massed spacer as they used.
I did research on this issue way before I ever bought my LS460. I was lucky and convinced the dealer to replace all of them or no deal. And they did. So I ended up with a hell of a car, all new front arms, new tires, new battery, all filters replaced inside and out and new wiper blades. The only bad is they used the old bad design arms that I will eventually have to replace. Been thinking of taking those arms down and stuffing full of heavy duty washers to fill that void but that's alot of work and may not be so effective as a solid massed spacer as they used.
10-05-22, 08:43 AM
#62
10-05-22, 08:46 AM
#63
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lol shipping parts from Dubai would be…. Not practical.
do you work there or promote them online?
10-05-22, 08:56 AM
#64
No I don't work there but ai compared the prices and it was very competitive... because some people got quotes for even 5000 usd for same parts while I got them for almost 1900 usd ... If anyone has better suggestions I am happy to hear it ... just trying to help ... maybe its good just for me because I am living here and I don't have to pay shipping charges
10-05-22, 09:44 AM
#65
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No I don't work there but ai compared the prices and it was very competitive... because some people got quotes for even 5000 usd for same parts while I got them for almost 1900 usd ... If anyone has better suggestions I am happy to hear it ... just trying to help ... maybe its good just for me because I am living here and I don't have to pay shipping charges
10-05-22, 11:09 AM
#66
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There may even be significant customs tariffs to be paid by USA recipient on top of shipping. I've never been able to get a tariff quote from any overseas seller. They don't know, it's up to US customs discretion.
01-11-23, 06:39 PM
#68
Ball joints
As A personal mechanic not by trade I can tell you what I believe was the problem all along.
First I own a 2011 LS460 and love the car. 108000 miles recently purchased last month.
The part that was added is a spacer to keep the control arm from fore and aft movement.
Some are calling it a washer but its actually a spacer. See the control arm can and should only move up and down. With that bad design it allowed the arm to move forward each time you hit the brakes or cornered and possibly even acceleration. Its not supposed to work that way. The arm and bushing must be secured to the mounting bracket on both sides to function properly. With that void on one side is what created the problem. I cant believe it took Lexus engineers so long to realize their mistake and fix it.
With that control arm moving this way also contributes to upper bushing wear as it transfers some of that forward movement upwards too. So it basically is wearing the whole front end out by unnecessary movement.
I'm just glad there is a fix for it from the newer models and do hope that my explanation helps people understand what was really going on with the premature wear issues. I don't think that the bushings themselves were ever the problem as much as that void in the control arm mounting was more the culprit.
Sorry for the lengthy first posting but felt the need to explain this issue in more detail. I look forward to being a member here and hope to help out as I can with my experiences and knowledge from working on cars since the 70's.
First I own a 2011 LS460 and love the car. 108000 miles recently purchased last month.
The part that was added is a spacer to keep the control arm from fore and aft movement.
Some are calling it a washer but its actually a spacer. See the control arm can and should only move up and down. With that bad design it allowed the arm to move forward each time you hit the brakes or cornered and possibly even acceleration. Its not supposed to work that way. The arm and bushing must be secured to the mounting bracket on both sides to function properly. With that void on one side is what created the problem. I cant believe it took Lexus engineers so long to realize their mistake and fix it.
With that control arm moving this way also contributes to upper bushing wear as it transfers some of that forward movement upwards too. So it basically is wearing the whole front end out by unnecessary movement.
I'm just glad there is a fix for it from the newer models and do hope that my explanation helps people understand what was really going on with the premature wear issues. I don't think that the bushings themselves were ever the problem as much as that void in the control arm mounting was more the culprit.
Sorry for the lengthy first posting but felt the need to explain this issue in more detail. I look forward to being a member here and hope to help out as I can with my experiences and knowledge from working on cars since the 70's.
01-11-23, 08:39 PM
#73
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Rattling may be metal exhaust heat shields have loosened. Common enough, baling wire fix.
01-12-23, 04:34 AM
#74
01-12-23, 05:46 AM
#75
Intermediate
Do you have pictures of this "spacer"? I bought after market bushings and a press was going to do all of the arms on my old car as a "project/hobby" would love to update these with the "spacer". Is this something I can add, or should I just buy the updated/upgraded control arm front lower.?
Thanks
Thanks