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Old 02-26-21, 06:32 AM
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Congrats!

I noticed a level of professionalism at Mercedes, BMW and Audi dealers that I hadn’t known at Lexus too. That’s not universal, but I definitely noticed it. Sales and service departments. Likely has to do with higher average transaction prices with the Germans and higher service prices and a better living to be made than at Lexus.
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Congrats and I wish you good luck with the car!

That is an impressive looking interior.
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I've often thought of replacing my car with an S8, but I read so many horror stories about the turbo oil feed screens and check valve causing turbo failures that I gave up. Yes, the performance and technology are better than the LS460 or even LS500, but I have grown to enjoy the rock-solid reliability of the LS460 - I feel a sense of great calm when contemplating taking it on an extended trip.
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Originally Posted by Tec80
I've often thought of replacing my car with an S8, but I read so many horror stories about the turbo oil feed screens and check valve causing turbo failures that I gave up. Yes, the performance and technology are better than the LS460 or even LS500, but I have grown to enjoy the rock-solid reliability of the LS460 - I feel a sense of great calm when contemplating taking it on an extended trip.
Honestly though, the rock solid reliability compared to options in this segment is overstated. German cars are not nearly as "unreliable" as people make them out to be. I see no difference in concern taking a late model german car on a long trip over the LS460.

Now, if we're talking about a 10+ year old one, then maybe that's a different story, but a 2015-2020? No problem.
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Originally Posted by Tec80
I've often thought of replacing my car with an S8, but I read so many horror stories about the turbo oil feed screens and check valve causing turbo failures that I gave up. Yes, the performance and technology are better than the LS460 or even LS500, but I have grown to enjoy the rock-solid reliability of the LS460 - I feel a sense of great calm when contemplating taking it on an extended trip.
Brother, I totally hear you. There's no way, and I mean NO WAY, I'd have done this without a warranty. My VIN just missed the last turbo screen production revision. Prior to the expiration of the CPO warranty, I plan on making a case for inspection and replacement under the TSB they have for it. I did buy an additional 5 year 80k total mile powertrain warranty that will cover the turbos for $1k. That will more than get me to where I'll probably be trading it on something else. Maybe by that time, Lexus will get its act together and give us the car we really want from them.
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Some even better news. My insurance premium only increased $14.06 with this change. I'm ecstatic about that.
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[QUOTE=DedBirdDog;11002101]Some even better news. My insurance premium only increased $14.06 with this change. I'm ecstatic about that.[/QUOTE

Congratulations on your new car and small rate increase in insurance.

i hope you have many happy miles and smiles!
Thanks for all your input on this site. It has been very helpful.
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Originally Posted by DedBirdDog
Some even better news. My insurance premium only increased $14.06 with this change. I'm ecstatic about that.
How crazy is that? When I got the S560mine went down $112!
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Congrats!

I noticed a level of professionalism at Mercedes, BMW and Audi dealers that I hadn’t known at Lexus too. That’s not universal, but I definitely noticed it. Sales and service departments. Likely has to do with higher average transaction prices with the Germans and higher service prices and a better living to be made than at Lexus.
One of my cycling buddies has an A4 wagon. I'm not sure how old it is, but he's had it since I first met him ten years ago. He said that when he takes it in for service, they really don't want to work on it any more, and keep suggesting that he upgrade to a new car He's currently researching local independent mechanics to take care of it from now on.
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Originally Posted by Dave144239
One of my cycling buddies has an A4 wagon. I'm not sure how old it is, but he's had it since I first met him ten years ago. He said that when he takes it in for service, they really don't want to work on it any more, and keep suggesting that he upgrade to a new car He's currently researching local independent mechanics to take care of it from now on.
Seeing that the service writers and techs work on commission basically that surprises me lol
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Seeing that the service writers and techs work on commission basically that surprises me lol
There’s a reason they don’t want to work on it anymore. It might not be as lucrative as their other business. A good mechanic is always backed up with work and wants the most profitable work.
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Try taking a Harley Davidson older than 5 years or so into a H-D service department. A lot of them won't touch it. I'm glad my dad taught me how to turn my own wrenches. And also when to know you're over your head and let someone who knows what to do handle it.
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Great thread with some interesting thoughts to consider when buying your next vehicle. I bought my first LS in 1996 it was a 92. Since then I've put over 1 million miles on Lexus cars and trucks. Mainly the LS. Had 400s 430s and now a 460L. The overall cost of ownership is dead low compared to any other car or truck I've owned. During the years I've had many company cars and the wife has had VWs, GMC suvs and now drives a Sequoia. Yes it's dated but has saved her life in a nasty collision, she's put 280k of trouble free mileage on it. I've been able to make every repair on that truck since new. Starter and alternator has been all it's needed oh and one transmission solenoid.
I recently picked up a 04 GX740 and added a Tesla Android system to update it a bit. But I love it.
Lexus vehicles aren't for everyone, if ya want a newly loaded feature rich product they aren't it. I had my LS at the dealer last week for the interior dash recall and they gave me an ES loaner. I was expecting so much more in the way of features like 360 cameras.. nope. But man are these cars bulletproof and safe. I love em and will continue to drive em into the ground.
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