Is the LS500 that bad??
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This happens every time Lexus releases a new model. Some people like the change and buy the new model, others don't and they come here to explain why they don't like the new changes. Many people did not like the mid cycle refresh on the LS460 where they changed the grill. I was one of them, but I still ended up buying a 2014 LWB and then a 2017 LWB. The LS500 is smaller inside, has a V6, but looks so much better. The car is also a pleasure to drive....
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The latest LS sold decently in the beginning. I think buyers loved the styling and hence the initial sales boom ( although still below the projected 1000 units/month). But I think as owners and passengers complained about how cramped it Is, how intrusive engine noise is, how it transmits more bumps into the cabin and through the steering wheel, sales dwindled. We buy an LS for the ultimate in refinement and luxury and comfort; along with comfort and effortless power. This latest generation has failed in this regard and Lexus needs to fix this.
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aypues (09-26-19)
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Except for for a little different grille, the 5 and the 7 look similar to me.
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The ES is definitely easier getting in and out of the car than the LS500 as well as roomier inside. I've had 2007 and 2012 LS's and prefer the 2018 as far as handling and power. My previous lease was a RC F. I'm probably wrong but I think the RC F would be a quicker car with the LS twin turbo instead of the V8. There's only been the bump when the transmission downshifts to first gear. Other than that, which was corrected, and the tire swap recall, this LS has been perfect. Well, the AWD is not the best on gas mileage but that's more of an observation, not a complaint.
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bigblack06 (09-26-19)
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Just bought my 2019 LS AWD Tuesday, and so far am happy with it. Taking a bit to get used to the gear shift, and cruz/radar.. had a 06 and 14 LS before, and bought a new ES last year,, Traded the ES as the ride was nothing compared to the larger car. Do have a bit of problem with the GPS, and Phone app... Wonder if there is any way to place photos on the GPS screen like was on the ES and '14LS.. Don't need the GPS screen for most driving, and is a bit of distraction in and around town. Have to wonder why it has driver seat massage, A shame that the windows don't lower with the Door Unlock button on the Fob like the other two LS's I owned.
But still reading the owner's manual. and learning.. Car/Play?? Isn't it just another distraction? I have a Note8, that gives me so many updates that can't imagine adding it to the car's system other than for the incoming phone calls. The ML sound system sounds great, but being an old fart, don't need a $2k set of speakers in a car that I only put 6-7ooo miles a year on.
Looking out over the Steering wheel, and seeing those two ***** for "Snow" and "Sport" reminds me of the SHREK, First time I had it in Sport mode and hit the accelerator, thought the car blew the Muffler.. Like the salesman told me,,, "That when you want to have some fun" $90k car sounding like a Jacked-up Big Wheel "Pick-em-up" Ford Truck..
Once again, if anyone can explain to me how to put photos on the middle screen would appreciate directions.
But still reading the owner's manual. and learning.. Car/Play?? Isn't it just another distraction? I have a Note8, that gives me so many updates that can't imagine adding it to the car's system other than for the incoming phone calls. The ML sound system sounds great, but being an old fart, don't need a $2k set of speakers in a car that I only put 6-7ooo miles a year on.
Looking out over the Steering wheel, and seeing those two ***** for "Snow" and "Sport" reminds me of the SHREK, First time I had it in Sport mode and hit the accelerator, thought the car blew the Muffler.. Like the salesman told me,,, "That when you want to have some fun" $90k car sounding like a Jacked-up Big Wheel "Pick-em-up" Ford Truck..
Once again, if anyone can explain to me how to put photos on the middle screen would appreciate directions.
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Budhah (09-28-19)
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I finally found that item in the owners book, I wonder what other little goodies that are pretty well hidden from us at purchase? Being a hundred plus miles from the dealer takes a little planning and a day to get simple things done. My other cars, once warranty was over, took to local Toyota service. What other options does the dealer hold in store for new owners?
Opening the windows on hot days from a hundred feet away allows the car to cool and fresh air entry,, Been doing it for years, so kind of spoiled.
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Thank you for pointing this out..
I finally found that item in the owners book, I wonder what other little goodies that are pretty well hidden from us at purchase? Being a hundred plus miles from the dealer takes a little planning and a day to get simple things done. My other cars, once warranty was over, took to local Toyota service. What other options does the dealer hold in store for new owners?
Opening the windows on hot days from a hundred feet away allows the car to cool and fresh air entry,, Been doing it for years, so kind of spoiled.
I finally found that item in the owners book, I wonder what other little goodies that are pretty well hidden from us at purchase? Being a hundred plus miles from the dealer takes a little planning and a day to get simple things done. My other cars, once warranty was over, took to local Toyota service. What other options does the dealer hold in store for new owners?
Opening the windows on hot days from a hundred feet away allows the car to cool and fresh air entry,, Been doing it for years, so kind of spoiled.
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The LS500's interior is smaller than the older LS460's? I hadn't heard that. How the heck did Lexus manage that, the new car is even longer than the previous "L" model!
I had heard that the ride quality wasn't quite as nice. Haven't ridden in one myself but that's a shame if true. You should never give up your niche, especially if you rule it.
I had heard that the ride quality wasn't quite as nice. Haven't ridden in one myself but that's a shame if true. You should never give up your niche, especially if you rule it.
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The LS500's interior is smaller than the older LS460's? I hadn't heard that. How the heck did Lexus manage that, the new car is even longer than the previous "L" model!
I had heard that the ride quality wasn't quite as nice. Haven't ridden in one myself but that's a shame if true. You should never give up your niche, especially if you rule it.
I had heard that the ride quality wasn't quite as nice. Haven't ridden in one myself but that's a shame if true. You should never give up your niche, especially if you rule it.
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Ride quality is subjective. The previous gens had a super plush ride. Some people called it boring and too isolating. Now it's stiffer and sportier. I think the reason the interior is smaller is because the exterior design. The long hood protrudes into the front passenger space and the subtle slope of the rear window requires the back seats to sit closer to the front taking away leg room. My back seats rarely get used and the front is roomy enough for me.
p.s. Engine is also noisy.
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JLAWS (10-02-19)