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Old 06-23-22, 09:47 AM
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I have a 2018 LS500 F RWD. 27k miles to left side started to fall and now it's about 3/4 inch taller on the right. Has anyone done a air suspension delete on the 5th gen? Thank you.
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There is a TSB that addresses uneven height of the suspension. I would check with that first if they have not confirmed bad air ride.
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i doubt that it’s the air suspension failing. Take it to the dealership you should still be under warranty you only have 27k miles. It’s probably the sensor links. I had the same problem when I replaced my links with aftermarket lowering links, they might just need to be adjusted.


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I have a 2018 LS500 F RWD. 27k miles to left side started to fall and now it's about 3/4 inch taller on the right. Has anyone done a air suspension delete on the 5th gen? Thank you.
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Yeah there is a TSB to recalibrate the air suspension level-ness. I had it done but it didn't do much. I was never 100% happy with my air suspension because sometimes the front end would be lower while driving and then it would scrape the road a few houses down from mine. It was quite embarrassing but wouldn't happen all the time. Sometimes the car sat a bit uneven when parked when looking at it from the rear. Lexus/Toyota just doesn't have enough experience with air suspension IMHO, I would try to avoid air suspension from Toyota/Lexus.

I've had air suspension in my Jaguar, Lincoln, and Tesla never had an issue with any of those air bag/strut systems.
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Thank you for your response. I have the car at Lexus and the service advisor said that their in-house tech's can't figure out what's going on so a Master tech from Lexus will be in on Monday. Let's hope there's a fix. But I'm still leaning towards a complete air ride delete.
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Yeah there is a TSB to recalibrate the air suspension level-ness. I had it done but it didn't do much. I was never 100% happy with my air suspension because sometimes the front end would be lower while driving and then it would scrape the road a few houses down from mine. It was quite embarrassing but wouldn't happen all the time. Sometimes the car sat a bit uneven when parked when looking at it from the rear. Lexus/Toyota just doesn't have enough experience with air suspension IMHO, I would try to avoid air suspension from Toyota/Lexus.

I've had air suspension in my Jaguar, Lincoln, and Tesla never had an issue with any of those air bag/strut systems.
Thank you for your response. I have the car at Lexus and the service advisor said that their in-house tech's can't figure out what's going on so a Master tech from Lexus will be in on Monday. Let's hope there's a fix. But I'm still leaning towards a complete air ride delete.
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Originally Posted by LS500Fan
Yeah there is a TSB to recalibrate the air suspension level-ness. I had it done but it didn't do much. I was never 100% happy with my air suspension because sometimes the front end would be lower while driving and then it would scrape the road a few houses down from mine. It was quite embarrassing but wouldn't happen all the time. Sometimes the car sat a bit uneven when parked when looking at it from the rear. Lexus/Toyota just doesn't have enough experience with air suspension IMHO, I would try to avoid air suspension from Toyota/Lexus.

I've had air suspension in my Jaguar, Lincoln, and Tesla never had an issue with any of those air bag/strut systems.
I am shopping for a LS500 and man this totally confirms that I want the non air suspension one. I had a bad experience with Mercedes AIRMATIC and that already made me nervous... reading things like this is helpful to me.

Thanks!
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I am shopping for a LS500 and man this totally confirms that I want the non air suspension one. I had a bad experience with Mercedes AIRMATIC and that already made me nervous... reading things like this is helpful to me.

Thanks!
I got mine reset from the dealer. But the car still sits about 10mm higher on the right side. Looks bad. I say get the AWD because it doesn't have the air ride. Better traction too with the AWD.
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Originally Posted by Ahjwille
I got mine reset from the dealer. But the car still sits about 10mm higher on the right side. Looks bad. I say get the AWD because it doesn't have the air ride. Better traction too with the AWD.
My LS 500h is AWD ánd has air...
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Originally Posted by Ahjwille
I got mine reset from the dealer. But the car still sits about 10mm higher on the right side. Looks bad. I say get the AWD because it doesn't have the air ride. Better traction too with the AWD.
I'm in Canada, all LS500 are AWD and air suspension here I believe. Just an FYI because not everyone on this forum is 'merican.
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Originally Posted by LS500Fan
Yeah there is a TSB to recalibrate the air suspension level-ness. I had it done but it didn't do much. I was never 100% happy with my air suspension because sometimes the front end would be lower while driving and then it would scrape the road a few houses down from mine. It was quite embarrassing but wouldn't happen all the time. Sometimes the car sat a bit uneven when parked when looking at it from the rear. Lexus/Toyota just doesn't have enough experience with air suspension IMHO, I would try to avoid air suspension from Toyota/Lexus.

I've had air suspension in my Jaguar, Lincoln, and Tesla never had an issue with any of those air bag/strut systems.
I love Jaguar , about toyota air suspention i have driven RX450h and i was not impressed from air suspention you can recycle air suspention this is what we do here in bg.
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I thought I was trippin or seeing things but mine is higher on the right side too. I took it to Lexus while it was still under warranty and they told me that if it isn't severely affecting the ride, to not rip apart the air suspension system because it would never be the same. I showed them the TSB too and the sensor bar recalibration did not fix it completely. They did however, acknowledge that it was a bit higher on the right side but then again reiterated that if they had to disassemble everything to diagnose and troubleshoot, that it would never be the same again.

I didn't like that answer and by the time I brought it back again, my warranty was expired because of the month purchased not by miles! I was not happy and I wasn't getting anywhere talking to the managers or "master techs". I didn't want to keep wasting my time bringing it in again and again, so I reconnected my Datasystems controller, and I adjusted the right side to be a little lower, so
i.e 1-2-1 (F,R,Rear), and now it looks right. Not the greatest answer or fix but it works and I didn't have to rip apart my suspension.

YMMV but i have seen some Datasystems on sale on here for like $300 bucks. A plus is you can also slam it when you want
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Originally Posted by HTOWNLS500
I thought I was trippin or seeing things but mine is higher on the right side too. I took it to Lexus while it was still under warranty and they told me that if it isn't severely affecting the ride, to not rip apart the air suspension system because it would never be the same. I showed them the TSB too and the sensor bar recalibration did not fix it completely. They did however, acknowledge that it was a bit higher on the right side but then again reiterated that if they had to disassemble everything to diagnose and troubleshoot, that it would never be the same again.

I didn't like that answer and by the time I brought it back again, my warranty was expired because of the month purchased not by miles! I was not happy and I wasn't getting anywhere talking to the managers or "master techs". I didn't want to keep wasting my time bringing it in again and again, so I reconnected my Datasystems controller, and I adjusted the right side to be a little lower, so
i.e 1-2-1 (F,R,Rear), and now it looks right. Not the greatest answer or fix but it works and I didn't have to rip apart my suspension.

YMMV but i have seen some Datasystems on sale on here for like $300 bucks. A plus is you can also slam it when you want
which Houston dealer did you take it to?
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Originally Posted by HTOWNLS500
I thought I was trippin or seeing things but mine is higher on the right side too. I took it to Lexus while it was still under warranty and they told me that if it isn't severely affecting the ride, to not rip apart the air suspension system because it would never be the same. I showed them the TSB too and the sensor bar recalibration did not fix it completely. They did however, acknowledge that it was a bit higher on the right side but then again reiterated that if they had to disassemble everything to diagnose and troubleshoot, that it would never be the same again.

I didn't like that answer and by the time I brought it back again, my warranty was expired because of the month purchased not by miles! I was not happy and I wasn't getting anywhere talking to the managers or "master techs". I didn't want to keep wasting my time bringing it in again and again, so I reconnected my Datasystems controller, and I adjusted the right side to be a little lower, so
i.e 1-2-1 (F,R,Rear), and now it looks right. Not the greatest answer or fix but it works and I didn't have to rip apart my suspension.

YMMV but i have seen some Datasystems on sale on here for like $300 bucks. A plus is you can also slam it when you want
I don't think they make a Data System controller for the LS 500. Only found one for $1250 on topendmotorsports.com



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