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Old 01-19-11, 02:16 AM
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Default Rigid collar set for LS430

While searching around, i came across these collars, designed to eliminate any subframe movement, strengthening the entire subframe/chassis, increasing straight line handling and higher precision turn in.


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Video explanation here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyUD6UXfog

Just over AU250 per set + postage
Old 01-19-11, 04:55 AM
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that shiz looks nice for going over bumps and what not. i wonder what the pro's and con's would be of this though?? i am almost as low as a dd should be for the obstacles i have to occasionally tackle but this i guess could allow me to go a slight bit lower, but would it make it that much more of a harsh ride??
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Good stuff thanks for posting! Unfortunately I don't have the space or tools to do this
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Very interesting............I guess this somewhat same as solid engine mount.
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So they make a set for our cars? Id be interested in some if it will help with the body flex in my car.
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very cool info and ...it would be great if somebody does this mod and let's us know their opinion of the results on the LS
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but would it make it that much more of a harsh ride??
From the website:
"Firm but not rigid. 強固に締結するけどボディは静かに。 I firmly conclude that the body is quiet.
そんなリジッドカラーという製品を通して、改めて真のボディ剛性というものを捉えていただければ幸いです。 Through a product that Rijiddokara, I would appreciate something that captures the true rigid body again."

So they make a set for our cars?
YES, they make these for the LS430 (UCF30/31) Thats why i posted it here!

Category : TOYOTA
型番 50261-UC3-000
定価 21,000円(税1,000円)
販売価格 21,000円(税1,000円)

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Very interesting............I guess this somewhat same as solid engine mount.
No not really, it to eliminate chassis flex and spring, not engine movement.

Im waiting to hear from my chassis expert too see what he thinks of the idea. If hes happy with it, then ill order a set.

Considering "Spoon" installs them in their cars, thats pretty promising.
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Where can you purchase these from? Only places I found online are in Japan and I cant navigate the site well enough to figure if they would ship to US.
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I'd have this if it I didn't have almost 200K on it. Maybe I'll trade for a newer LS430 and do this mod.
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You can use a broker to get them in from Japan if you like... or purchase them on YahooJapan, use a Tenso address if they dont ship to the US.

I have a few brokers here i use in Australia. Surely there are brokers in the US for hard to get Jap stuff..

I cant see why you couldnt do this on a car with high mileage..
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I have found a Spoon outlet in english. It's RHDJapan. They sell Spoon, JDM and more. They do ship to the USA. They seem to be mainly marketing to Honda folks but I have sent them a message to confirm that they will sell Spoon part number 50261-UC3-000. Their prices are discounted and shipping to the states is around $45 so the total is around $257.

They used to sell regularly on eBay but haven't done so lately. Last feedback is from April '10. Their feedback is good with over 6,000 transactions.

Their english web site is RDHJapan.

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Originally Posted by Bon
I have found a Spoon outlet in english. It's RHDJapan. They sell Spoon, JDM and more. They do ship to the USA. They seem to be mainly marketing to Honda folks but I have sent them a message to confirm that they will sell Spoon part number 50261-UC3-000. Their prices are discounted and shipping to the states is around $45 so the total is around $257.

They used to sell regularly on eBay but haven't done so lately. Last feedback is from April '10. Their feedback is good with over 6,000 transactions.

Their english web site is RDHJapan.
Thank you very much
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Originally Posted by Bon
I have found a Spoon outlet in english. It's RHDJapan. They sell Spoon, JDM and more. They do ship to the USA. They seem to be mainly marketing to Honda folks but I have sent them a message to confirm that they will sell Spoon part number 50261-UC3-000. Their prices are discounted and shipping to the states is around $45 so the total is around $257.

They used to sell regularly on eBay but haven't done so lately. Last feedback is from April '10. Their feedback is good with over 6,000 transactions.

Their english web site is RDHJapan.

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Thank you very much
OR since im a ex honda guy i know this...you could try spoon sports exclusive US dealer http://opakracing.com/index.htm email them and see if they can get them

upon further reading though they MAYBE out of business? this isnt confirmed so email them and see

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/topics...ak-racing.html

i dunno for sure, you could also try their european dealer

http://www.spoonsportseurope.net/

ALTHOUGH they dont show anything for lexus as they have typically ALWAYS been a honda/integra brand. their stuff is elite and most of it for the racing/performance enthusiasts

http://www.spoonsportseurope.net/ind...id-collar.html

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That video is utter bull****.

The 'demonstration' of body stability being reduced after fitting the collars is a farce. The car is driven over the block at a faster speed in the first video, causing the suspension to lift higher when it hits the block. The second video is with the car moving slower, so the suspension doesn't recoil so much, and therefore doesn't lift the body so high.

it's even more evident in the 'side-by-side' video, as you can see the wheels of the car are much more blurred in the lower video when compared to the top one. This is becuase they have had to slow the two video to different frame rates to make their slow motion speed appear the same.
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Few mates have use RHDJapan, all good.

As for the video, well, i just found the info and posted it. A chassis dyno will prove or bust the effects of the collars without a doubt..


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