vipermann1

First Question: 05 Engine changes

I see 2 threads below mine, someone bought a new 2005 LX470 from Longo.
I thought the 05 had a more powerful engine. I know for sure they have the new GEN4 NAV.

Anyone think the DEC 2005 production will have more HP? Anyone hear about the 05 engine changes? Lexus web site still has the 2005 model listed with the same HP for the engine.



Second Question:

Also, I spoke to Longo Lexus ..Told them I was buying a 2005 LX470 and wanted the TRD charger. They said the TRD super charger is for the Landcruiser and not a Lexus add on. They will install it, but will not warranty the engine for any defects that arise since it is a Toyota part on a Lexus vehicle?
Any truth to this?
Has anyone added a TRD charger to their 04 or 05 model and had any warranty issues.

Thanks All,

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Gohawks63

What the hell does the dealer mean "Toyota part on a Lexus vehicle"? Do they see all the little Toyota markings throught the engine bay?

rcf8000

I just checked trdusa.com, and the supercharger for the LX470 (or any vehicle with the 4.7 liter engine) is no longer listed. Back in June it was listed. I read somewhere else that it was no longer being offerred. Apparently this is the case. This is unfortunate.

ntran18

iTrader: (27)

That's a load of crap. You should ask him who supplies all his Lexus parts. The warranty is something else you need to look into.

ozlx470

Not a complete load of crap. The engineering specifications and failure rates for Lexus components are much higher/lower than those for Toyota components.

Gohawks63

It's the same damn vehicle. In many cases, it's the same part number. Let's not all buy into the marketing BS.

I will give you that Lexus may have higher grade leather, or more sound deadening insulation, but as I mentioned, many of the major components (i.e., engine, transfer case, transmission, etc.) are identical between the LX and the Land Cruiser. The whole idea of badge engineering is cost savings by sharing parts.

ozlx470

I suggest you read

http://www.detnews.com/2004/specialr.../a15-70498.htm

Gohawks63

That article speaks specifically about the Tahara plant which produces the LS and GS. Both of those are built on an exclusive platform. In other words they are not rebadged versions of existing Toyota vehicles such as the RX(Highlander), ES(Camry), GX(4Runner), and LX(Land Cruiser).

As for the following excerpt...

That is a standard set by the Tahara plant that as I have come to find out, also builds the Land Cruiser but according to the Lexus website, DOES NOT build the LX.

Could it be that the LC is built in a plant that has higher standard than other plants?

http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/about_toy...ing/index.html

http://www.lexus.com/about/corporate/manufacturing.html

PitBull

Tahara is also where the GX and 4runner are built. It was the top plant Toyota has for quality and the most automated plant.

ozlx470

If you fully read the first link you quote you will find that the Tahara plant does indeed manufacture the Landcruiser and as the Lexus brand is not yet sold in Japan then the Japanese web sites may not fully reflect the actual manufacturing locations. But this is a spurious to the main thrust that is that the Lexus brand does have higher specifications than the normal Toyota specifications.

PitBull

Toyota, already a stickler for quality, will not accept components if defects exceed 50 per million parts shipped. In contrast, for Lexus vehicles, Tahara managers insist on fewer than 10 defects per million parts.
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50 per millon or 10 per million failures, OK guys this does not make sense when you talk about the LC or the LX. Like how many LX's have they made??? Can some one explain this to me based on the limited production/sales of the 100 series LC and the LX470?

Also since they use the same engine/transmission/frame/etc. basicly the same vehicle how can they have different defect standards?

Gohawks63

That's my point precisely! At least someone understands what I'm trying to say.

The parts are coming in and as you mentioned, the LC and LX share those major components. Since the plant builds both vehicles and the parts are shared, how in the world can they apply different standards for the LX over the LC????

If anything, since the LC is built in that same plant, it may be benefitting from the Lexus quality stndards that are being imposed by the suppliers.

PitBull

At least when it comes to the Landcruiser I doubt there is any difference. The Landcruiser is the "Brand" the LX is just a softer riding more luxury version of the Landcruiser. I look at the Landcruiser as not a Toyota or a Lexus but a name unto itself. I hope that never changes but I'm affraid it might in the future.

LEXTECH

The 05 LX will have small changes compared to the 04. The LX will be changed entirely for 06,that's when it will get a larger, more powerful engine. Possibly 5.5L then it will be known as the LX550. The reason behind the engine change instead same engine with higher HP, is because Toyota wants to strike back at Nissan for bringing out the Titan with it's 5.6L engine, so the Tundra,(Seqouia maybe) LandCruiser,and Lexus LX are going to get this larger engine for 06. Also to not be so simillar to the GX470. Iknow there's other reasons, but I'm tired of typing already..

BrickHead

LEXTECH, will the LX get a full redesign for 06 or just a new engine? Isn't the total redesign expected for 07?