Snow tires?
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Snow tires?
I want to get some dedicated snows (not just A/S) for my '99 LX that will have decent wear characteristics when driven on dry roads. I found a few great compromises that don't give up much dry and wet handling for my Audi allroad and don't wear out on dry roads...of course they're not made for trucks.
Looking for some recommendations from those that have actual experience with the tire on their LX...w/ ice, snowpack, deep snow, etc.
Looking for some recommendations from those that have actual experience with the tire on their LX...w/ ice, snowpack, deep snow, etc.
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So 265/75 R16 is preferable to 275/70 R16?
The 265 will cause a little speedo error...but the narrower tire should be better in snow. Anyone safely use anything narrower on stock rims?
That aside, ever used any of these on your LX? How do they compare in terms of grip (wet/dry/snow/ice), ride, noise, and wear?
I've used some of the other Blizzaks, and they all wore quickly on dry pavement. Had a set of WS-50s on an IS300 and they also were terrible under braking on dry.
The Winter Dueler DM-Z2 are load rated -- possibly a plus for such a heavy truck.
The 265 will cause a little speedo error...but the narrower tire should be better in snow. Anyone safely use anything narrower on stock rims?
That aside, ever used any of these on your LX? How do they compare in terms of grip (wet/dry/snow/ice), ride, noise, and wear?
I've used some of the other Blizzaks, and they all wore quickly on dry pavement. Had a set of WS-50s on an IS300 and they also were terrible under braking on dry.
The Winter Dueler DM-Z2 are load rated -- possibly a plus for such a heavy truck.
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the tires are very close to the same size, the speedo wont be too affected. On plowed/packed snow you want the smallest footprint on the tire to try and dig down into the snow.
If your driving on very powdery snow that is fresh, you would rather more tire patch as to try and "float" over it.
Many people have 265/75/16's on their Landcruisers who live in snowy areas.
I have stuck to a fresh set of my Michelin LTX M/S' which works pretty well for me.
If your driving on very powdery snow that is fresh, you would rather more tire patch as to try and "float" over it.
Many people have 265/75/16's on their Landcruisers who live in snowy areas.
I have stuck to a fresh set of my Michelin LTX M/S' which works pretty well for me.
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My LTX M/S are absolutely nothing in ice/snow compared to dedicated snow tires. I run Yoko Geolandar I/T+ in winter with awesome results. However, I run LTX M/S in the summer months on dedicated wheels.
For true snow tires that don't wear quickly in summer, try Nokian--they have a WR line for passenger cars that I have on my LS400 that are great year round--they are true extreme duty snow tires yet also rated for all-season use, with a 400 treadwear rating. I was dubious until I tried them--they truly are great all-around, with true snow rating. I think there is a comparable line for trucks, but now sure.
For true snow tires that don't wear quickly in summer, try Nokian--they have a WR line for passenger cars that I have on my LS400 that are great year round--they are true extreme duty snow tires yet also rated for all-season use, with a 400 treadwear rating. I was dubious until I tried them--they truly are great all-around, with true snow rating. I think there is a comparable line for trucks, but now sure.
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AT tires suck in snow compared to dedicated snow tires...no comparison, like trying to compare a sports sedan to a Ferrari. My in-laws in northern Japan (snows a lot like the Michigan upper peninsula) use blizzaks or studded tires. You an corner at seemingly unbelievable speeds, even on hard pack wet snow, but they won't wear nearly as long as a AT tire on dry pavement. We once drove a 2wd (rear wheel drive) sedan down tight mountain switchbacks at 35mph, turns that I wouldn't have taken over 15mph with my 6 yrs driving experience in snow in Upstate NY using AT tires. You could just feel the tires at the threshold of breaking free. On another vehicle w/ part-time 4wd, you could take turns even faster. Roads with curves that I wouldn't drive over 35-40mph w/ AT's you could take at 60+mph w/ snow tires. These cars were both about 10 yr old Toyotas, no ABS/traction control.
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