New Land Cruiser
07-18-06, 10:39 AM
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Besides, the LX470 outsells the LC here:
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc
End of Year 2004 Sales Figures:
LAND CRUISER: 6,778 units
LX 470: 9,846 units
4RUNNER: 114,212 units
GX 470: 35,420 units
SEQUOIA: 58,114 units
TUNDRA: 112,484 units
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc
End of Year 2004 Sales Figures:
LAND CRUISER: 6,778 units
LX 470: 9,846 units
4RUNNER: 114,212 units
GX 470: 35,420 units
SEQUOIA: 58,114 units
TUNDRA: 112,484 units
07-18-06, 03:04 PM
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Interesting update...
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128909
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Toyota's next-generation Land Cruiser 130-series will be here shortly. As this is the company's top-of-the-range flagship 4x4 model, the new arrival has been a much-kept secret, but now information has been leaked and revealed.
As most of us should already know, the styling is going to be more aggressive and even more robust. Styling clues from the FTX concept vehicle (shown at the Detroit Auto Show) will heavily influence the new design. The Land Cruiser will also grow significantly in every dimension. The 4x4 is said to be longer, wider and sit lower. The height of the body will remain largely unchanged, but it is said that the SUV will sit lower than normal to give a more stable ride and brilliant on-road manners. This system is also a part of Gen-2 active height control and TEMS suspension system, which give the suspension even more travel for off-road usage.
The Land Cruiser 130-series will also be available with a new line-up of engines. There will be 4.5L V8 32v Twin Turbo D-4D common-rail diesel that develops 306hp and turns out almost a whopping 600nm of torque. This engine will replace the six-cylinder diesel available in the current Cruiser. The current gasoline engine will be replaced with a 5.0L V8 VVT-I that develops 335bhp. Torque figures are not yet confirmed for the gas engine, but should be similar to the diesel. To tune things down a bit Toyota is going to also give the 2007 Cruiser the same VVT-I 4.0L V6 240hp gasoline engine used in both the Prado and FJ Cruiser. The engines will also be mated to either a six-speed manual gearbox or a silky-smooth 6-speed Tiptronic gearbox borrowed from the Phaeton and Touareg. The Tiptronic box will be standard on diesel and V8 gasoline engines, and optional on the V6 model.
It has been rumored that Toyota is going to launch it 2007 LX550 in the US with a 5.5 liter V8 engine. This is not true! Toyota was going to introduce the new LX500 in the US, which has the same engine as the Land Cruiser 130. The last minute decision by Toyota Motor Company was that after 2007 they will discontinue the LX range from North America and sell the LX500 in Japan with a new Name: Cygnus 500 and the Land Cruiser will remain as the only Japanese-built full-sized SUV in the US.
A head spokesmen, Akio Lya, at Toyota Motor Company said, "This is a bold decision that Toyota and Lexus are taking but we just couldn't keep both of them together in North America. We have been forced to drop the LX as we are planning to create completely different designs for upcoming Toyota and Lexus models. Following the year 2007 the new Land Cruiser 130 will also be available in Japan in its twin Lexus form. The Japanese market is completely different from the US and Europe and having two virtually-identical models are acceptable. The Toyota brand is known globally and has built up such as strong reputation that the name Land Cruiser is a legend and will live on. The Land Cruiser offered to the North American Market is going to be more luxurious and so much more desirable to those customers. We at Toyota Motor Company have made the right decision and will offer the Lexus LX again 2009 with a different design and totally different looks, which will stand apart from the Land Cruiser range
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128909
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Toyota's next-generation Land Cruiser 130-series will be here shortly. As this is the company's top-of-the-range flagship 4x4 model, the new arrival has been a much-kept secret, but now information has been leaked and revealed.
As most of us should already know, the styling is going to be more aggressive and even more robust. Styling clues from the FTX concept vehicle (shown at the Detroit Auto Show) will heavily influence the new design. The Land Cruiser will also grow significantly in every dimension. The 4x4 is said to be longer, wider and sit lower. The height of the body will remain largely unchanged, but it is said that the SUV will sit lower than normal to give a more stable ride and brilliant on-road manners. This system is also a part of Gen-2 active height control and TEMS suspension system, which give the suspension even more travel for off-road usage.
The Land Cruiser 130-series will also be available with a new line-up of engines. There will be 4.5L V8 32v Twin Turbo D-4D common-rail diesel that develops 306hp and turns out almost a whopping 600nm of torque. This engine will replace the six-cylinder diesel available in the current Cruiser. The current gasoline engine will be replaced with a 5.0L V8 VVT-I that develops 335bhp. Torque figures are not yet confirmed for the gas engine, but should be similar to the diesel. To tune things down a bit Toyota is going to also give the 2007 Cruiser the same VVT-I 4.0L V6 240hp gasoline engine used in both the Prado and FJ Cruiser. The engines will also be mated to either a six-speed manual gearbox or a silky-smooth 6-speed Tiptronic gearbox borrowed from the Phaeton and Touareg. The Tiptronic box will be standard on diesel and V8 gasoline engines, and optional on the V6 model.
It has been rumored that Toyota is going to launch it 2007 LX550 in the US with a 5.5 liter V8 engine. This is not true! Toyota was going to introduce the new LX500 in the US, which has the same engine as the Land Cruiser 130. The last minute decision by Toyota Motor Company was that after 2007 they will discontinue the LX range from North America and sell the LX500 in Japan with a new Name: Cygnus 500 and the Land Cruiser will remain as the only Japanese-built full-sized SUV in the US.
A head spokesmen, Akio Lya, at Toyota Motor Company said, "This is a bold decision that Toyota and Lexus are taking but we just couldn't keep both of them together in North America. We have been forced to drop the LX as we are planning to create completely different designs for upcoming Toyota and Lexus models. Following the year 2007 the new Land Cruiser 130 will also be available in Japan in its twin Lexus form. The Japanese market is completely different from the US and Europe and having two virtually-identical models are acceptable. The Toyota brand is known globally and has built up such as strong reputation that the name Land Cruiser is a legend and will live on. The Land Cruiser offered to the North American Market is going to be more luxurious and so much more desirable to those customers. We at Toyota Motor Company have made the right decision and will offer the Lexus LX again 2009 with a different design and totally different looks, which will stand apart from the Land Cruiser range
07-18-06, 03:33 PM
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That figures well with what people in the industry (I'm an auto wholesaler) have told me they expected. When AHC was added to LC, the lines between LC & LX were definitely blurring to the point that it wasn't making much sense. I personally thought the LX would be discontinued & a Sequoia-based Lexus introduced, but this article leaves that vague.
Again, I'll be disappointed if the LX name ends up on a non-LC based vehicle. I'd rather see the LX end-of-life and a new model introduced, but I also understand wanting to capitalize on the branding done so far and so well w/ the 450 & 470.
Again, I'll be disappointed if the LX name ends up on a non-LC based vehicle. I'd rather see the LX end-of-life and a new model introduced, but I also understand wanting to capitalize on the branding done so far and so well w/ the 450 & 470.
07-18-06, 04:15 PM
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As an LX470 owner, I am happy and sad at this decision, assuming its 100% correct. For one, my LX should be even rarer to find once Lexus discontinues it from the NA market, but the LC is very capable of taking up the slack.... However, a LC is a LC, and is a Toyota which means that buyers who want luxury and customer service would find it hard to buy a super luxurious LC with a Toyota service bay for service and repairs.... Would Toyota upgrade their service for the new LC owners to match the level of luxury in this 130 series ?
Finally, would the diesel model make it to the NA market ? I'd sure love to see the diesel here mated to a 6-speed MT... Should be a more fun truck to drive.... sits lower, wider, more powerful, better MPG, more torque and a short-throw MT.... What's not to like....
Finally, would the diesel model make it to the NA market ? I'd sure love to see the diesel here mated to a 6-speed MT... Should be a more fun truck to drive.... sits lower, wider, more powerful, better MPG, more torque and a short-throw MT.... What's not to like....
07-19-06, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tetra7
Interesting update...
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128909
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Toyota's next-generation Land Cruiser 130-series will be here shortly. As this is the company's top-of-the-range flagship 4x4 model, the new arrival has been a much-kept secret, but now information has been leaked and revealed.
As most of us should already know, the styling is going to be more aggressive and even more robust. Styling clues from the FTX concept vehicle (shown at the Detroit Auto Show) will heavily influence the new design. The Land Cruiser will also grow significantly in every dimension. The 4x4 is said to be longer, wider and sit lower. The height of the body will remain largely unchanged, but it is said that the SUV will sit lower than normal to give a more stable ride and brilliant on-road manners. This system is also a part of Gen-2 active height control and TEMS suspension system, which give the suspension even more travel for off-road usage.
The Land Cruiser 130-series will also be available with a new line-up of engines. There will be 4.5L V8 32v Twin Turbo D-4D common-rail diesel that develops 306hp and turns out almost a whopping 600nm of torque. This engine will replace the six-cylinder diesel available in the current Cruiser. The current gasoline engine will be replaced with a 5.0L V8 VVT-I that develops 335bhp. Torque figures are not yet confirmed for the gas engine, but should be similar to the diesel. To tune things down a bit Toyota is going to also give the 2007 Cruiser the same VVT-I 4.0L V6 240hp gasoline engine used in both the Prado and FJ Cruiser. The engines will also be mated to either a six-speed manual gearbox or a silky-smooth 6-speed Tiptronic gearbox borrowed from the Phaeton and Touareg. The Tiptronic box will be standard on diesel and V8 gasoline engines, and optional on the V6 model.
It has been rumored that Toyota is going to launch it 2007 LX550 in the US with a 5.5 liter V8 engine. This is not true! Toyota was going to introduce the new LX500 in the US, which has the same engine as the Land Cruiser 130. The last minute decision by Toyota Motor Company was that after 2007 they will discontinue the LX range from North America and sell the LX500 in Japan with a new Name: Cygnus 500 and the Land Cruiser will remain as the only Japanese-built full-sized SUV in the US.
A head spokesmen, Akio Lya, at Toyota Motor Company said, "This is a bold decision that Toyota and Lexus are taking but we just couldn't keep both of them together in North America. We have been forced to drop the LX as we are planning to create completely different designs for upcoming Toyota and Lexus models. Following the year 2007 the new Land Cruiser 130 will also be available in Japan in its twin Lexus form. The Japanese market is completely different from the US and Europe and having two virtually-identical models are acceptable. The Toyota brand is known globally and has built up such as strong reputation that the name Land Cruiser is a legend and will live on. The Land Cruiser offered to the North American Market is going to be more luxurious and so much more desirable to those customers. We at Toyota Motor Company have made the right decision and will offer the Lexus LX again 2009 with a different design and totally different looks, which will stand apart from the Land Cruiser range
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=128909
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Toyota's next-generation Land Cruiser 130-series will be here shortly. As this is the company's top-of-the-range flagship 4x4 model, the new arrival has been a much-kept secret, but now information has been leaked and revealed.
As most of us should already know, the styling is going to be more aggressive and even more robust. Styling clues from the FTX concept vehicle (shown at the Detroit Auto Show) will heavily influence the new design. The Land Cruiser will also grow significantly in every dimension. The 4x4 is said to be longer, wider and sit lower. The height of the body will remain largely unchanged, but it is said that the SUV will sit lower than normal to give a more stable ride and brilliant on-road manners. This system is also a part of Gen-2 active height control and TEMS suspension system, which give the suspension even more travel for off-road usage.
The Land Cruiser 130-series will also be available with a new line-up of engines. There will be 4.5L V8 32v Twin Turbo D-4D common-rail diesel that develops 306hp and turns out almost a whopping 600nm of torque. This engine will replace the six-cylinder diesel available in the current Cruiser. The current gasoline engine will be replaced with a 5.0L V8 VVT-I that develops 335bhp. Torque figures are not yet confirmed for the gas engine, but should be similar to the diesel. To tune things down a bit Toyota is going to also give the 2007 Cruiser the same VVT-I 4.0L V6 240hp gasoline engine used in both the Prado and FJ Cruiser. The engines will also be mated to either a six-speed manual gearbox or a silky-smooth 6-speed Tiptronic gearbox borrowed from the Phaeton and Touareg. The Tiptronic box will be standard on diesel and V8 gasoline engines, and optional on the V6 model.
It has been rumored that Toyota is going to launch it 2007 LX550 in the US with a 5.5 liter V8 engine. This is not true! Toyota was going to introduce the new LX500 in the US, which has the same engine as the Land Cruiser 130. The last minute decision by Toyota Motor Company was that after 2007 they will discontinue the LX range from North America and sell the LX500 in Japan with a new Name: Cygnus 500 and the Land Cruiser will remain as the only Japanese-built full-sized SUV in the US.
A head spokesmen, Akio Lya, at Toyota Motor Company said, "This is a bold decision that Toyota and Lexus are taking but we just couldn't keep both of them together in North America. We have been forced to drop the LX as we are planning to create completely different designs for upcoming Toyota and Lexus models. Following the year 2007 the new Land Cruiser 130 will also be available in Japan in its twin Lexus form. The Japanese market is completely different from the US and Europe and having two virtually-identical models are acceptable. The Toyota brand is known globally and has built up such as strong reputation that the name Land Cruiser is a legend and will live on. The Land Cruiser offered to the North American Market is going to be more luxurious and so much more desirable to those customers. We at Toyota Motor Company have made the right decision and will offer the Lexus LX again 2009 with a different design and totally different looks, which will stand apart from the Land Cruiser range
07-21-06, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Chow
Besides, the LX470 outsells the LC here:
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc
End of Year 2004 Sales Figures:
LAND CRUISER: 6,778 units
LX 470: 9,846 units
4RUNNER: 114,212 units
GX 470: 35,420 units
SEQUOIA: 58,114 units
TUNDRA: 112,484 units
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc
End of Year 2004 Sales Figures:
LAND CRUISER: 6,778 units
LX 470: 9,846 units
4RUNNER: 114,212 units
GX 470: 35,420 units
SEQUOIA: 58,114 units
TUNDRA: 112,484 units
07-21-06, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
Amazing that the LX 470 outsells the LC even though the LX costs much more...
07-23-06, 03:18 PM
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Am I reading this correctly? 2006 Will be the last year of the LX?? Until 2009? Wow. That is a bummer! My father's 2002 is in dire need of a complete overhaul......He loves his LX and the 2006 didn't offer enough changes to warrant a trade in. Any suggestions?
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07-23-06, 06:16 PM
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Lexus needs a Full-Size SUV so they're Going to Have to drop Something! Currently, that have a small SUV and TWO medium SUVs. Why two? If they decide to have a Large SUV, what are they going to have? One small SUV, two medium SUVs and one Large SUV? They need to drop the LX and bring in something bigger with luxury options. My Wife and I went to test drive an LX and it was lacking so many options that the Lincoln Navigator, Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX56 had. The LX should have the same options as the LS430 - especially with the price tag it carries!
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Given the very low sales level for the LX470, I can see where Toyota would want to discontinue it. My suggestion: replace it in the lineup with a unibody SUV based on the GS platform, with a fold-into-the-floor third row seat.
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Originally Posted by LuvLuxury
Am I reading this correctly? 2006 Will be the last year of the LX?? Until 2009? Wow. That is a bummer! My father's 2002 is in dire need of a complete overhaul......He loves his LX and the 2006 didn't offer enough changes to warrant a trade in. Any suggestions?
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