Lexus Unveils All-New LX 570 @ 2007 NYIAS (official pics & specs pg. 9)
04-06-07, 10:28 AM
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Thank you Cybil. 
So which is it? 
If you don't work in Public Relations you missed your calling. Spun the results in the first sentence (I'd say the overwhelming concensus on this thread is that the exterior is fugly), and changed the subject to something more positive in the second. Man, you're good.
So which is it? If you don't work in Public Relations you missed your calling. Spun the results in the first sentence (I'd say the overwhelming concensus on this thread is that the exterior is fugly), and changed the subject to something more positive in the second. Man, you're good.
04-06-07, 10:31 AM
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My $0.02... The last (current) LX470 is not really a thing of beauty on the outside but it seems styled for its 'function' to me.
This new LX470 however, is an abomination, a 'Frankenstein' of styles. It's a RAV4/ES/LS/Highlander cross breed on bad steroids.
The interior looks 'impressive', but I'd say it's OVERWHELMING with buttons, surfaces, and bling. While the materials may be nicer than an Escalade's, average customers are going to need a week's training class to figure it all out.
This is the vehicle for those who want 'the most toys' but have no taste.
Range Rover, Q7, Escalade, all better.
Having said that, as Lexus has systematically ruined the styling of its vehicles except for the new LS (IMHO) they will no doubt climb to higher sales levels, as BMW did with their Bangled designs.
Ugly is the new 'it'.
This new LX470 however, is an abomination, a 'Frankenstein' of styles. It's a RAV4/ES/LS/Highlander cross breed on bad steroids.
The interior looks 'impressive', but I'd say it's OVERWHELMING with buttons, surfaces, and bling. While the materials may be nicer than an Escalade's, average customers are going to need a week's training class to figure it all out.
This is the vehicle for those who want 'the most toys' but have no taste.
Range Rover, Q7, Escalade, all better.
Having said that, as Lexus has systematically ruined the styling of its vehicles except for the new LS (IMHO) they will no doubt climb to higher sales levels, as BMW did with their Bangled designs.
Ugly is the new 'it'.
. I forgot, the Escalade is the epitome of taste. Is the Escalade's exaggerated exterior considered "tasteful"? Outside of rappers and celebrities, I don't think so.The Audi Q7, that's tasteful. The Escalade?
But in the end, it's a matter of opinion.
If you have a better idea on how to implement all the functions and features of the LX in a easy-to-learn, convenient, and intuitive way in the interior, I'd sure love to hear it
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04-06-07, 10:33 AM
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I did not mention Malibu. I am saying Lexus needs to find a better way on ergonomics than zillions of buttons. How about improving their voice recognition for one. How about allowing some of those buttons to be hidden (GS started in this direction with the little pop out on the left side of the steering wheel on LHD models at least)?
If Lexus owners did not like the interiors, they would have changed them. German automakers continue to use "I-Drive" type interfaces, despite large criticism from their consumers.
Most consumers want lots of buttons, because the alternative is an "I-Drive" type system.
04-06-07, 11:05 AM
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I love the exterior of the Range Rover as well. One of the best looking SUVs IMO.
After looking at the pics again, I'm still lukewarm about the LX570 exterior. But the interior is very, very nice.
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04-06-07, 11:44 AM
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If you look at the buttons on the dash of the LX, it is 3 horizontal rows. It's not overly hard to master IMO.
Yes, there also are both sides of the NAVI screen. But it's audio, A/C, etc. rows.
Yes, there also are both sides of the NAVI screen. But it's audio, A/C, etc. rows.
04-06-07, 11:47 AM
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04-06-07, 01:57 PM
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Lexus owners complaining about egronomics, yet somehow they always top JD Powers. Oh yeah they're not complaining.
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04-06-07, 02:36 PM
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LX, lol, a rebadged LC.
At least GM goes to the effort of putting a dramatically improved powertrain in their Escalade to make it appeal over the Tahoe - rather than just depending on upgraded sound insulation, nicer leather, nicer trim, and a few extra toys.
At least GM goes to the effort of putting a dramatically improved powertrain in their Escalade to make it appeal over the Tahoe - rather than just depending on upgraded sound insulation, nicer leather, nicer trim, and a few extra toys.
04-06-07, 03:11 PM
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The 5.7L V8 will be available on all fullsize Toyota SUV's.
the Cadillac brand conscious GM fans justify paying an additional $20k on a vehicle because it has a couple more horses, when GM refuses to give the idential Tahoe a more powerful motor.
Or is it the Escalade's higher quality fake wood, coupled with modular GM controls pathetically "flowing" under a piece of black plastic??
04-06-07, 03:40 PM
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That is but only one opinion. Many GS owners in fact complained about that hidden compartment, saying they wanted many of those buttons in plain view for greater convenience.
If Lexus owners did not like the interiors, they would have changed them. German automakers continue to use "I-Drive" type interfaces, despite large criticism from their consumers.
Most consumers want lots of buttons, because the alternative is an "I-Drive" type system.
If Lexus owners did not like the interiors, they would have changed them. German automakers continue to use "I-Drive" type interfaces, despite large criticism from their consumers.
Most consumers want lots of buttons, because the alternative is an "I-Drive" type system.
04-06-07, 04:31 PM
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I'm sure it will be around here shortly.
20k? LOL - that's the difference in price between the BASE model Tahoe and the Escalade. That's like me saying
"Lexus is charging twice the price for the ES350 for a couple more horses over the Camry." But a more realistic comparison is to equip them as comparably as possible.
And in that case the Escalade is only 7k more.
Oh, and "a couple horses" is more like 83 horses, full time AWD, and 6-speed auto vs 4-speed - and that's just the powertrain differences.
I'd say there's easily enough content to justify the 7k price increase for some consumers if they were already going to be buying the Tahoe LTZ.
Wait - weren't you just complaining about GM not giving the Escalade enough added content to make it more than a rebadged Tahoe? So which is it? Make up your mind.
Those are two things I would change about the Escalade for sure. The center stack is way too modular, and fake wood doesn't belong in a vehicle of that price. In fact most of the other caddy models use real wood, so I don't understand what they were thinking with the tahoe.
the Cadillac brand conscious GM fans justify paying an additional $20k on a vehicle because it has a couple more horses
"Lexus is charging twice the price for the ES350 for a couple more horses over the Camry." But a more realistic comparison is to equip them as comparably as possible.
And in that case the Escalade is only 7k more.
Oh, and "a couple horses" is more like 83 horses, full time AWD, and 6-speed auto vs 4-speed - and that's just the powertrain differences.
I'd say there's easily enough content to justify the 7k price increase for some consumers if they were already going to be buying the Tahoe LTZ.
when GM refuses to give the idential Tahoe a more powerful motor.
Or is it the Escalade's higher quality fake wood, coupled with modular GM controls pathetically "flowing" under a piece of black plastic??
04-06-07, 05:01 PM
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ehm, few extra toys? For all purposes, LX is better equipped than best LS460 currently available.
But, thats only few extra toys
It is hillarious... apperantly, LX shouldnt have LS interior and LS options, it should have copied it from Rav4, and it would be much better and more stylish.
