Lexus Unveils All-New LX 570 @ 2007 NYIAS (official pics & specs pg. 9)
04-05-07, 08:52 AM
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Is L-Finesse boring or refined?
Why has the top-of-the-line products of Lexus been very simple on the outside?
Lexus flaunts great technology (as in the LS) and, in the case of their SUVs, off-road performance (as in the LX and GX), yet they do not flaunt the design aspect of their vehicles? Is there passion in the design, or is that passion simply heart-felt warmth to please the conservative masses?
Not that I want the LX to look like the LF-A, but there needs to be design cues (other than flaunting a big "L" on the grill) that claims "This is Lexus at it's Best," not "This is Lexus being very cautious to please rich old people."
The Pursuit of Perfection sometimes requires crossing the line. Look that the Audi Q7 for example: it crosses the line with its design, and it is distinguishable without being audacious, such as H2s or Escalades. Has the Pursuit been misdirected? Is Perfection boring or bland?
The Definition of Finesse: refinement or delicacy of workmanship, structure, or texture.
Finesse is a value that many lack and few possess. However, Finesse needs to be complemented with a innovation to be competitive in today's world. Otherwise, it fades into the shadows of the past with little effect on the future. Perhaps the mantra of Lexus design needs to change from L-Finesse to L-Ingenious.
Lexus needs to rediscover their aptitude in discovering and reinventing their place in the luxury segment. Part of luxury is not only flaunting technology or high price tags; it is also the idea that rare and beautiful things are hard to come by.
I see finesse in paintings and photographs and sculptures. It requires utmost refinement and delicacy to create a work of art. However, ingenuity is what makes a painting or photograph or sculpture stand out from the rest. Ingenuity is what differentiates Greatest Works of Art from just a work or art.
Lexus needs ingenuity to further progress themselves in this market.
The Pursuit of Perfection continues...
P.S. I might as well make this a single topic on Car Chat...
Lexus flaunts great technology (as in the LS) and, in the case of their SUVs, off-road performance (as in the LX and GX), yet they do not flaunt the design aspect of their vehicles? Is there passion in the design, or is that passion simply heart-felt warmth to please the conservative masses?
Not that I want the LX to look like the LF-A, but there needs to be design cues (other than flaunting a big "L" on the grill) that claims "This is Lexus at it's Best," not "This is Lexus being very cautious to please rich old people."
The Pursuit of Perfection sometimes requires crossing the line. Look that the Audi Q7 for example: it crosses the line with its design, and it is distinguishable without being audacious, such as H2s or Escalades. Has the Pursuit been misdirected? Is Perfection boring or bland?
The Definition of Finesse: refinement or delicacy of workmanship, structure, or texture.
Finesse is a value that many lack and few possess. However, Finesse needs to be complemented with a innovation to be competitive in today's world. Otherwise, it fades into the shadows of the past with little effect on the future. Perhaps the mantra of Lexus design needs to change from L-Finesse to L-Ingenious.
Lexus needs to rediscover their aptitude in discovering and reinventing their place in the luxury segment. Part of luxury is not only flaunting technology or high price tags; it is also the idea that rare and beautiful things are hard to come by.
I see finesse in paintings and photographs and sculptures. It requires utmost refinement and delicacy to create a work of art. However, ingenuity is what makes a painting or photograph or sculpture stand out from the rest. Ingenuity is what differentiates Greatest Works of Art from just a work or art.
Lexus needs ingenuity to further progress themselves in this market.
The Pursuit of Perfection continues...
P.S. I might as well make this a single topic on Car Chat...
04-05-07, 08:57 AM
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Philip, I think its b/c Lexus does want new buyers but not to stray far enough from their loyal customers. Lexus doesn't see the need to let trends dictate their styling, nor have drunk/blind car designers create their new cars.
I am assuming with focus groups, Styling is just not big when it comes to the LX but more power/more luxury was.
Notice how now, the LX headlights look like LS units. I am positive the next GX will have quad lamps ala the GS, so the models will be aligned.
In this one pic, the car is not ugly but it surely does not strike a match in anyone. IMO, they basically rounded the lines. This is not a high volume sales vehicle.
I am assuming with focus groups, Styling is just not big when it comes to the LX but more power/more luxury was.
Notice how now, the LX headlights look like LS units. I am positive the next GX will have quad lamps ala the GS, so the models will be aligned.
In this one pic, the car is not ugly but it surely does not strike a match in anyone. IMO, they basically rounded the lines. This is not a high volume sales vehicle.
04-05-07, 09:02 AM
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Why has the top-of-the-line products of Lexus been very simple on the outside?
Lexus flaunts great technology (as in the LS) and, in the case of their SUVs, off-road performance (as in the LX and GX), yet they do not flaunt the design aspect of their vehicles? Is there passion in the design, or is that passion simply heart-felt warmth to please the conservative masses?
Not that I want the LX to look like the LF-A, but there needs to be design cues (other than flaunting a big "L" on the grill) that claims "This is Lexus at it's Best," not "This is Lexus being very cautious to please rich old people."
The Pursuit of Perfection sometimes requires crossing the line. Look that the Audi Q7 for example: it crosses the line with its design, and it is distinguishable without being audacious, such as H2s or Escalades. Has the Pursuit been misdirected? Is Perfection boring or bland?
The Definition of Finesse: refinement or delicacy of workmanship, structure, or texture.
Finesse is a value that many lack and few possess. However, Finesse needs to be complemented with a innovation to be competitive in today's world. Otherwise, it fades into the shadows of the past with little effect on the future. Perhaps the mantra of Lexus design needs to change from L-Finesse to L-Ingenious.
Lexus needs to rediscover their aptitude in discovering and reinventing their place in the luxury segment. Part of luxury is not only flaunting technology or high price tags; it is also the idea that rare and beautiful things are hard to come by.
I see finesse in paintings and photographs and sculptures. It requires utmost refinement and delicacy to create a work of art. However, ingenuity is what makes a painting or photograph or sculpture stand out from the rest. Ingenuity is what differentiates Greatest Works of Art from just a work or art.
Lexus needs ingenuity to further progress themselves in this market.
The Pursuit of Perfection continues...
P.S. I might as well make this a single topic on Car Chat...
Lexus flaunts great technology (as in the LS) and, in the case of their SUVs, off-road performance (as in the LX and GX), yet they do not flaunt the design aspect of their vehicles? Is there passion in the design, or is that passion simply heart-felt warmth to please the conservative masses?
Not that I want the LX to look like the LF-A, but there needs to be design cues (other than flaunting a big "L" on the grill) that claims "This is Lexus at it's Best," not "This is Lexus being very cautious to please rich old people."
The Pursuit of Perfection sometimes requires crossing the line. Look that the Audi Q7 for example: it crosses the line with its design, and it is distinguishable without being audacious, such as H2s or Escalades. Has the Pursuit been misdirected? Is Perfection boring or bland?
The Definition of Finesse: refinement or delicacy of workmanship, structure, or texture.
Finesse is a value that many lack and few possess. However, Finesse needs to be complemented with a innovation to be competitive in today's world. Otherwise, it fades into the shadows of the past with little effect on the future. Perhaps the mantra of Lexus design needs to change from L-Finesse to L-Ingenious.
Lexus needs to rediscover their aptitude in discovering and reinventing their place in the luxury segment. Part of luxury is not only flaunting technology or high price tags; it is also the idea that rare and beautiful things are hard to come by.
I see finesse in paintings and photographs and sculptures. It requires utmost refinement and delicacy to create a work of art. However, ingenuity is what makes a painting or photograph or sculpture stand out from the rest. Ingenuity is what differentiates Greatest Works of Art from just a work or art.
Lexus needs ingenuity to further progress themselves in this market.
The Pursuit of Perfection continues...
P.S. I might as well make this a single topic on Car Chat...
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04-05-07, 09:05 AM
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04-05-07, 09:05 AM
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I have seen the debut of the production of my 2 favorite cars, yesterday (M3) and today this. I can not be more disappointed than this.
I love everything about current gen LX470 (aka Toyota Cygnus). This, tho, looks like nothing but a POS.
NO GOOD CAR LEFT!
I love everything about current gen LX470 (aka Toyota Cygnus). This, tho, looks like nothing but a POS.
NO GOOD CAR LEFT!
04-05-07, 09:09 AM
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The Pursuit of Perfection sometimes requires crossing the line. Look that the Audi Q7 for example: it crosses the line with its design, and it is distinguishable without being audacious, such as H2s or Escalades. Has the Pursuit been misdirected? Is Perfection boring or bland?
Q7??
04-05-07, 09:14 AM
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LX looks pretty bad.
we will just have to wait and see.
04-05-07, 09:15 AM
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Looking at the Benz GL and now this, seems the Toyota Highlander was a breakthrough design.
04-05-07, 09:18 AM
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lol...My soda went through my nose with this statement..
Lexus needs to keep the sheet used to reveal the car back on.
The SUV's remain bloated Toyota's imo.. My 02 Rav4 looks like a miniature GX470.. All I need is a Lexus badges to slap on it. Identity crisis for Lexus once again with this new LX...
Lexus needs to keep the sheet used to reveal the car back on.The SUV's remain bloated Toyota's imo.. My 02 Rav4 looks like a miniature GX470.. All I need is a Lexus badges to slap on it. Identity crisis for Lexus once again with this new LX...
04-05-07, 09:52 AM
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And even if the SUV (Lexus or not) can go off-road, most luxury SUVs are primarily and functionaly made and designed to provide the maximum amount of cargo and passenger space in one vehicle.
04-05-07, 09:56 AM
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I know a true SUV should be able to go off-road, but I doubt that even 5% of SUVs sold/bought in the U.S. even get to see a dirt road, much less go off-road.
And even if the SUV (Lexus or not) can go off-road, most luxury SUVs are primarily and functionaly made and designed to provide the maximum amount of cargo and passenger space in one vehicle.
And even if the SUV (Lexus or not) can go off-road, most luxury SUVs are primarily and functionaly made and designed to provide the maximum amount of cargo and passenger space in one vehicle.
Lexus will probably make RX bigger which is what you want... or some other SUV bigger than RX, and still car based... but Land Cruiser stays Land Cruiser.