pagemaster

Actually the LX is the slowest vehicle using the 5.7 V8. 0-60 mph time is 7.4 seconds and this is using premium fuel.

The Land Cruiser is around 6.5 seconds. The reason for the slow performance of the LX is because of the 3 ton weight it carries around.

Da Hapa

I certainly am not questioning your stat's but I have to say that something is strange in those numbers.

The LX570 and LC are essentially the same vehicle with the exception of trim and some goodies.

Edmunds list the curb weight of the LX @ 5,995 lbs while the LC is 5,690 lbs. I'm not sure that it makes since that 300 lbs would explain nearly one second in 0-60 time.

Does anyone else think that's odd?

tigmd99

Does it really matter??!! These are heavy duty SUVs we're talking about...none of us will race them. If anyone wants bragging rights, then you have bought the wrong vehicle! I rate SUVs by what they are made to do...utility, capability, etc., not on speed or handling. If i wanted something along those lines, then i would get a BMW X5 or something.

Da Hapa

It only matters to satisfy an intellectual curiousity. Two very heavy vehicles (nearly 6,000 lbs) with identical drive trains that weigh very near one another should produce similar acceleration times shouldn't they?

tigmd99

And the only way to know the answer to your question (and pagemaster's claim) is to test both vehicles on the same day, by the same driver, in the same direction...in other words, under the same exact condition...the answer that you are looking for will never be answered.

pagemaster

Lexus.com states 7.4sec 0-60mph for the LX. Motor Trend claims the Land Cruiser is at 6.5 secs.

pagemaster

I disagree. We have gotten to the point now where Toyota's SUVS such as the Land Cruiser now have dual VVTi, 6 speed auto, pre crash, cameras (LX models) and why can't I have my outstanding performance. And this is why I believe Toyota should go IRS on the 200 models.

tigmd99

And we all know that Lexus estimates are usually conservative. Here is the real test by C&D: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

Basically, 0-60 in 6.7 seconds, matching Mercedes GL450. End of discussion.

tigmd99

To be honest, i am dumbfounded by people who buy big SUVs and care about a 1 second difference in 0-60. Of course, the actual difference is only 0.2 seconds!

Da Hapa

I couldn't care less if it matches the GL or not but the much closer time to the quoted acceleration of the nearly identical Land Cruiser satisfies my intellectual curiosity.

Thanks.

CRB

The GL550 is kind of a beast (for an SUV) the 0-60 mph is 5.9 seconds (source: C&D Short Take Road Test) and contrary to what has been said it comes almost totally loaded (options for GL550 at edmunds) for the $81K price of entry. The third row is usable by adults/full-sized teens that could be a big plus for people who need that capacity. The true passenger capacity is akin to a minivan or a Suburban than the Lx/LC.

tigmd99

Suburban, yes. Minivan, no way! The beauty of the minivan is that the 3rd row is quite useable AND there is still plenty of cargo space left.

CRB

The third row in my brother-in-laws Chrysler Town&Country is less inhabitable for adults than the GL's third row. The seat in the T&C is just too low to the floor to be comfortable. I guess it depends on the people and the mini. Three across for adults is hell in either. And cargo space is another matter.

tigmd99

Yeah, T&C (esp. previous generation) did not have good cargo space. Take a look at a Sienna or Honda Ody next time...big difference.

Da Hapa

and the driving dynamics in a modern minivan (Sienna and esp. Odyssesy) are far superior to most SUV's.