LX570 vs new Touareg, X5, RR, Q7, GL- crash test
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LX570 vs new Touareg, X5, RR, Q7, GL- crash test
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Since roads in Poland are more like battlefields of Iraq and the only highway we have connects my city (fortunately with the German border, I would need a safe car for intercity journeys. The choice has been narrowed down to LX570 and other big SUVs. And while the heart screams "get me the new Bimmer 650" the brain says "you will get stuck in mud and snow for 5 months in a year and a drunk driver of a 30-year-old communist-made truck won't even notice you". An obvious exaggeration but unfortunately not by much.
Please share your opinions about the safety of these SUVs. Price, MPG, etc. is of lesser concern.
Since roads in Poland are more like battlefields of Iraq and the only highway we have connects my city (fortunately with the German border, I would need a safe car for intercity journeys. The choice has been narrowed down to LX570 and other big SUVs. And while the heart screams "get me the new Bimmer 650" the brain says "you will get stuck in mud and snow for 5 months in a year and a drunk driver of a 30-year-old communist-made truck won't even notice you". An obvious exaggeration but unfortunately not by much.
Please share your opinions about the safety of these SUVs. Price, MPG, etc. is of lesser concern.
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Get the 650!! I would if I were you, then maybe by a cheap used 4x4 for those days of bad weather. I've only driven the X5 out of all your choices and it drove brilliantly! Felt extremely solid and buttoned down. The ride was excellent, very smooth for BMW without too much body roll. The steering was a bit numb, but precise. Idk I've always like the RR a lot, the GL looks pretty sweet too. Idk my vote still goes to the 650i, that thing is beautiful.
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The 650i is not an option for many reasons. The only real option is one of the big SUVs.
The main difference (in my opinion) between the LX and the others is body-on-frame vs. monocoque and the question if it translates into grater safety. The lesser differences: height and maneuverability. More than 20cm for LX vs Touareg, on the other hand Touareg or X5 might just get one out of trouble when LX flips over.
Anyone ever experienced an accident driving one of these cars? Of course it would be highly subjective, nevertheless could give some insight.
PS. Try living in a country that was subject to communist rule for 50 years and tell me if you like the commies
The main difference (in my opinion) between the LX and the others is body-on-frame vs. monocoque and the question if it translates into grater safety. The lesser differences: height and maneuverability. More than 20cm for LX vs Touareg, on the other hand Touareg or X5 might just get one out of trouble when LX flips over.
Anyone ever experienced an accident driving one of these cars? Of course it would be highly subjective, nevertheless could give some insight.
PS. Try living in a country that was subject to communist rule for 50 years and tell me if you like the commies
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The main difference (in my opinion) between the LX and the others is body-on-frame vs. monocoque and the question if it translates into grater safety. The lesser differences: height and maneuverability. More than 20cm for LX vs Touareg, on the other hand Touareg or X5 might just get one out of trouble when LX flips over.
Anyone ever experienced an accident driving one of these cars? Of course it would be highly subjective, nevertheless could give some insight.
PS. Try living in a country that was subject to communist rule for 50 years and tell me if you like the commies
Anyone ever experienced an accident driving one of these cars? Of course it would be highly subjective, nevertheless could give some insight.
PS. Try living in a country that was subject to communist rule for 50 years and tell me if you like the commies
PS. I did, that's why I laughed at you. Never had a problem and lived well, each has/had its own good. And I like them no better than the capitalists.
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+1. Not to try to poke at topic-starter, but there's an old russian saying that goes like "Winners try to find the ways to win and losers try to find the reasons to blame..."
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AKoch, Re your quote- "And I like them no better than the capitalists."
Like they say, ignorance is bliss. I guess you never noticed how the democratic countries have to put up walls to keep people out and the communists have to put up walls to keep people in.
Like they say, ignorance is bliss. I guess you never noticed how the democratic countries have to put up walls to keep people out and the communists have to put up walls to keep people in.
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All the SUVs listed above are very safe. To concentrate on the LX, I own the Land Cruiser version. In europe that is available with the 4.5 TTD (we only get the 5.7L gas in the US).
Anyhow, safety is very good on the LX570/LC200 with 14 airbags and a frame 140% stiffer than the LX470/LC100s. Also, the roof structure (A-pillar in particular) has been totally redesigned and is much heavier duty to protect occupants in event of a rollover. Obviously myriad traction aids are there to stop this happening in the first place but good to know it's there.
I prefer the lower-profile nature of the 535d to the 650i, not to mention it's more practical. If you want a gas 6-sries and don't get about cost then wait for the M6. I have a 2008 M5 and love it. Both are passively also very safe safe and have better active safety than any of the SUVs (RWD not withstanding), though if I were to be hit by a truck I would prefer to be in a large and new 4x4.
Anyhow, safety is very good on the LX570/LC200 with 14 airbags and a frame 140% stiffer than the LX470/LC100s. Also, the roof structure (A-pillar in particular) has been totally redesigned and is much heavier duty to protect occupants in event of a rollover. Obviously myriad traction aids are there to stop this happening in the first place but good to know it's there.
I prefer the lower-profile nature of the 535d to the 650i, not to mention it's more practical. If you want a gas 6-sries and don't get about cost then wait for the M6. I have a 2008 M5 and love it. Both are passively also very safe safe and have better active safety than any of the SUVs (RWD not withstanding), though if I were to be hit by a truck I would prefer to be in a large and new 4x4.
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I agree. Perhaps you might want to look up the definitions of the concepts - democracy, autocracy, ochlocracy, communism, capitalism, socialism. This is a very good start since it is all mixed up in your posting. Regarding the second part of the comment - let's just agree that there are various views on the subject, each as good as any other. Hope you had a chance to live in each of the societies you refer to for 20+ years to pass judgements and compare.
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I agree. Perhaps you might want to look up the definitions of the concepts - democracy, autocracy, ochlocracy, communism, capitalism, socialism. This is a very good start since it is all mixed up in your posting. Regarding the second part of the comment - let's just agree that there are various views on the subject, each as good as any other. Hope you had a chance to live in each of the societies you refer to for 20+ years to pass judgements and compare.