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Old 05-04-16, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanSC300lover
Not surprising.

The new Tacoma is having TONS of auto trans issues as well. They have been leaving the port with low fluid. Given it is a sealed trans, it isn't fun checking it.

Hopefully Lexus NA makes it right.
It's not as fun checking an auto tranny with a dip stick, but it's not rocket science. Simply remove the level plug on the side of the transmission and check. So far, the shifting weirdness has been reported a lot, given the number of '16 LX and Cruiser models here in the U.S.

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Originally Posted by hankinid
It's not as fun checking an auto tranny with a dip stick, but it's not rocket science. Simply remove the level plug on the side of the transmission and check. So far, the shifting weirdness has been reported a lot, given the number of '16 LX and Cruiser models here in the U.S.

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Yup not saying it is rocket science. Just without a dipstick it isn't as "easy" as before.

That said whether you have a 40K tacoma or a 98K LX570, tranny issues used to be relegated to Honda only....
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Originally Posted by Jasperw1
Update... Took my car in for service today and I am now back home in a loaner car. The lead technician and I took my car out to try and reproduce the issue with the transmission. He was driving and immediately got on the highway and said the shifting felt normal to him. I made him take the next exit to a side road and explained again that the hesitation and lag/vibration is from second to third gear and we needed to test it from a complete stop. Once on the side road the transmission reacted just as I had explained and he felt it and then tried to say maybe it's normal for the 2016 LX. What does maybe mean??? At this point I said let's go back to the dealership and test drive a new LX.
After keeping me waiting for 20 minutes the tech comes back and said that there is not another one on the lot to test drive. While waiting I noticed one in the new car delivery bay and demanded a test drive in it. He said no...After raising cain with the tech and the Genearal Manager they agreed to take it out for a test drive. Now all three of us test my LX again first and then the LX being delivered today. The transmission shift and hesitation was night and day and they both said something is wrong with mine but they don't know what. I needed to leave it for a few days for them to connect it to the computers and see what the issue is...could just need more transmission fluid in. Are you kidding me on a 100k car!!!!!! They stated that they will get all they necessary reports and diagnosis from my car and elevate it to Lexus. I am so upset right now I can't even think straight.


That's terrible. One of the main reasons to own a Lexus is not having to deal with exactly this kind of nonsense.
Old 05-04-16, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasperw1
Update... Took my car in for service today and I am now back home in a loaner car. The lead technician and I took my car out to try and reproduce the issue with the transmission. He was driving and immediately got on the highway and said the shifting felt normal to him. I made him take the next exit to a side road and explained again that the hesitation and lag/vibration is from second to third gear and we needed to test it from a complete stop. Once on the side road the transmission reacted just as I had explained and he felt it and then tried to say maybe it's normal for the 2016 LX. What does maybe mean??? At this point I said let's go back to the dealership and test drive a new LX.
After keeping me waiting for 20 minutes the tech comes back and said that there is not another one on the lot to test drive. While waiting I noticed one in the new car delivery bay and demanded a test drive in it. He said no...After raising cain with the tech and the Genearal Manager they agreed to take it out for a test drive. Now all three of us test my LX again first and then the LX being delivered today. The transmission shift and hesitation was night and day and they both said something is wrong with mine but they don't know what. I needed to leave it for a few days for them to connect it to the computers and see what the issue is...could just need more transmission fluid in. Are you kidding me on a 100k car!!!!!! They stated that they will get all they necessary reports and diagnosis from my car and elevate it to Lexus. I am so upset right now I can't even think straight.
Don't be upset. Stuff happens and...you got over the biggest hurdle of getting them to admit something is wrong. Make 100% sure it is documented and if they can't fix it they will have to lemon the car after 3 attempts to fix it.
Old 05-05-16, 11:24 AM
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Im betting you there are no codes to be found with your Transmission, maybe the only thing is a reflash of the computer to overwrite the files and start over--may or may not help though!
It will be interesting to see what they come up with!
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Originally Posted by ryanSC300lover
Not surprising.

The new Tacoma is having TONS of auto trans issues as well. They have been leaving the port with low fluid. Given it is a sealed trans, it isn't fun checking it.

Hopefully Lexus NA makes it right.
This is a totally different transmission. It is very similar to the transmissions that have been used in the Lexus LX and VW Tourarag/Porsche Cayenne. There is likely a one off with the OP's transmission which hopefully Lexus will be able to fix.
In my experience the transmission has been very smooth, my only complaint is its tendency to shift a little early in all the modes but sport+ (this is a common complaint with 8 speeds as the manufacturers are doing everything they can to increase MPG).
Old 05-05-16, 06:21 PM
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Not to seem mechanically stupid but what is a one off with OP's transmission?
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Originally Posted by Jasperw1
Not to seem mechanically stupid but what is a one off with OP's transmission?
a one off is nothing mechanical it is an expression that means something is a anomaly.
Old 05-05-16, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasperw1
Update... Took my car in for service today and I am now back home in a loaner car. The lead technician and I took my car out to try and reproduce the issue with the transmission. He was driving and immediately got on the highway and said the shifting felt normal to him. I made him take the next exit to a side road and explained again that the hesitation and lag/vibration is from second to third gear and we needed to test it from a complete stop. Once on the side road the transmission reacted just as I had explained and he felt it and then tried to say maybe it's normal for the 2016 LX. What does maybe mean??? At this point I said let's go back to the dealership and test drive a new LX.
After keeping me waiting for 20 minutes the tech comes back and said that there is not another one on the lot to test drive. While waiting I noticed one in the new car delivery bay and demanded a test drive in it. He said no...After raising cain with the tech and the Genearal Manager they agreed to take it out for a test drive. Now all three of us test my LX again first and then the LX being delivered today. The transmission shift and hesitation was night and day and they both said something is wrong with mine but they don't know what. I needed to leave it for a few days for them to connect it to the computers and see what the issue is...could just need more transmission fluid in. Are you kidding me on a 100k car!!!!!! They stated that they will get all they necessary reports and diagnosis from my car and elevate it to Lexus. I am so upset right now I can't even think straight.
OK, I'm starting to get really concerned after reading this: We just purchased a new LX last month and I too have noticed a very sluggish pick up esp. from a complete stop. I have not really noticed or paid attention to the 2nd to 3rd gear shift issue but feel an overall sluggishness and lack of power. This is in normal/eco/comfort modes. In S/S+ it's slightly better. I mean every so slightly better but still very low on torque.

I'm wondering if I should take it in to get it checked.
Old 05-05-16, 08:02 PM
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Pick up and acceleration on my 2016 is about the same as on my previous 2014. But then I never push my cars either. In eco mode transmission seems to hesitate ever so slightly between 2nd/3d gear, nothing unusual
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Originally Posted by AustinHusk
OK, I'm starting to get really concerned after reading this: We just purchased a new LX last month and I too have noticed a very sluggish pick up esp. from a complete stop. I have not really noticed or paid attention to the 2nd to 3rd gear shift issue but feel an overall sluggishness and lack of power. This is in normal/eco/comfort modes. In S/S+ it's slightly better. I mean every so slightly better but still very low on torque.

I'm wondering if I should take it in to get it checked.
Lexus is there and waiting. If you feel like something is wrong you should let them know. My 2016 LX has the same power as my previous LX units and other than the new 8 speed tranny my the same.
Old 05-11-16, 02:48 PM
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Update...My local Lexus service department tried for four days to find out what was causing the dangerous lag and hesitation with my transmission. Lexus NA had the lead technician running all sorts of test and even switching parts with another new LX that had already been sold but not able the fix the problem. They wanted to keep my car for an additional four days to run more test and checklist that Lexus NA engineers sent them. Currently the recommendation was to put in a new transmission in a brand new LX 570 that I only owned for less than two weeks. I said no way was that happening and asked them to put the car back together. Thankfully everyone involved noted and realized that something was wrong with my car.

After calling multiple Managers, General Managers, Dealership Owner where I purchased the car and Lexus they agreed to buy the car back for what I paid for it. The dealership took care of the transaction immedialty and I had check refund in hand. They offered to order me a new LX which would have taken three months with no guarantee that I would not have the same issue. Even though I loved the LX570 returning it was the right thing to do at this time for my peace of mind. I have to say that everyone involved was super nice and tried to make this situation right and for that I probably will buy another Lexus in the future.
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Glad it came to a somewhat satisfactory ending.
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Originally Posted by Jasperw1
Update...My local Lexus service department tried for four days to find out what was causing the dangerous lag and hesitation with my transmission. Lexus NA had the lead technician running all sorts of test and even switching parts with another new LX that had already been sold but not able the fix the problem. They wanted to keep my car for an additional four days to run more test and checklist that Lexus NA engineers sent them. Currently the recommendation was to put in a new transmission in a brand new LX 570 that I only owned for less than two weeks. I said no way was that happening and asked them to put the car back together. Thankfully everyone involved noted and realized that something was wrong with my car.

After calling multiple Managers, General Managers, Dealership Owner where I purchased the car and Lexus they agreed to buy the car back for what I paid for it. The dealership took care of the transaction immedialty and I had check refund in hand. They offered to order me a new LX which would have taken three months with no guarantee that I would not have the same issue. Even though I loved the LX570 returning it was the right thing to do at this time for my peace of mind. I have to say that everyone involved was super nice and tried to make this situation right and for that I probably will buy another Lexus in the future.
Wow. Just wow.
But glad you got your $$ back
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Good that lexus took it back.

I can tell you coming from a 6 speed GX the new LX definitely has lag issues with the transmission. I would of upgraded had it not been for this lag issue and lack of power as a result. Apparently some here dont notice an issue, but its definitely there.

As a rule, I will never get the 1st year of a new model again, and that goes for major refreshes like the one LX went thru. Just too many issues even for lexus.

I anticipate that lexus may one day go the way of CVT, but thats far into the future

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