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Old 09-01-17, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hankinid
You can call them anything but late for dinner, but they are not Land Cruisers nor LXs by any means.
Hey, 70 series is a Land Cruiser, 80 series is a Land Cruiser, 90 series is a Land Cruiser, 100 series is a Land Cruiser, 120 series is a Land Cruiser ...
There is no reason why the current 150 series (sold as Land Cruiser in most EU countries and as LC Prado in Australia) could not be called Land Cruiser!
I still own one LC 120 in Europe (about 14 years old) and I am really happy with it!
But the original topic was about a new LX/LC. So after reading some more articles on the internet, I still think that all of them are wrong and the new Land Cruiser which will debut in Frankfurt is not a successor of LC 200 but the new "small" Land Cruiser - a successor of LC 150.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
Hey, 70 series is a Land Cruiser, 80 series is a Land Cruiser, 90 series is a Land Cruiser, 100 series is a Land Cruiser, 120 series is a Land Cruiser ...
There is no reason why the current 150 series (sold as Land Cruiser in most EU countries and as LC Prado in Australia) could not be called Land Cruiser!
I still own one LC 120 in Europe (about 14 years old) and I am really happy with it!
But the original topic was about a new LX/LC. So after reading some more articles on the internet, I still think that all of them are wrong and the new Land Cruiser which will debut in Frankfurt is not a successor of LC 200 but the new "small" Land Cruiser - a successor of LC 150.
Are they still using 4Runner drivetrain?
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Originally Posted by hankinid
Are they still using 4Runner drivetrain?
Yes, 4Runner stil uses drivetrain from the small Land Cruiser although Torsen differential is just in 4Runner Limited (other 4Runner version use part-time 4x4) :-)
Old 09-02-17, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
Yes, 4Runner stil uses drivetrain from the small Land Cruiser although Torsen differential is just in 4Runner Limited (other 4Runner version use part-time 4x4) :-)
So as it ends up, we're now calling 4Runner-derived vehicles "small Land Cruisers"?

Again, the current 200 series is the only one that can trace it's parentage back to the original FJ. Going forward from there, the 200 continues on the same production line and a different factory than the "small Land Cruiser".
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I think that 4Runner is a "Land Cruiser-derived" vehicle :-)
Small "light duty" Land Cruiser was for many years part of LC family. See here:
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https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/300...1007311/page-2...check post #23.
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Old 09-02-17, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hankinid
Quite clear :-) We can continue this thread in GX forum :-)
Old 09-03-17, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
Yes, 4Runner stil uses drivetrain from the small Land Cruiser although Torsen differential is just in 4Runner Limited (other 4Runner version use part-time 4x4) :-)
Originally Posted by hankinid
Are they still using 4Runner drivetrain?
New 4Runner does not have a Torsen diff. The 4th Gen does.
Old 09-03-17, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
New 4Runner does not have a Torsen diff. The 4th Gen does.
Limited trim does, per Toyota's own website.
Old 09-03-17, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadro
Limited trim does, per Toyota's own website.
no Torsen. Just a centre diff. Not the same as 03 V8

upfated. My mistake. It appears that it does have a Torsen.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
Quite clear :-) We can continue this thread in GX forum :-)
That's what I'm hoping will happen.
Old 09-04-17, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
This looks that we could get new LX even earlier:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...urt-motor-show

But on the other side, the debut in Europe mans that we can get just a new small Land Cruiser Prado (successor of LC 150). It would make a sense as the current GX460 and 4Runner are also due for a replacement (they are the last Toyotas without Toyota Safety Sense or Lexus Safety System).
This looks promising. Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by DocT
Why should they spend monies, times and energy to redesign LX any time soon when there are not lot of buyers, so as Mercedes G Class which has been the same for years because there is not a lot of buyers. Unlike popular RX, it will have a modest face lift with 3rd row seat.
No facelift .... it’s identical to the 2017
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Originally Posted by ClaytonW
Hey, 70 series is a Land Cruiser, 80 series is a Land Cruiser, 90 series is a Land Cruiser, 100 series is a Land Cruiser, 120 series is a Land Cruiser ...
There is no reason why the current 150 series (sold as Land Cruiser in most EU countries and as LC Prado in Australia) could not be called Land Cruiser!
I still own one LC 120 in Europe (about 14 years old) and I am really happy with it!

But the original topic was about a new LX/LC. So after reading some more articles on the internet, I still think that all of them are wrong and the new Land Cruiser which will debut in Frankfurt is not a successor of LC 200 but the new "small" Land Cruiser - a successor of LC 150.
I'd expect whenever the new 200 series debuts, it will be in Tokyo as it always has been.
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2018 adds Eminent White Pearl and deletes Starfire Pearl, 21" wheels get black inner trim instead of gray, LED reverse lamps, revised RSE cover, power rear door changed to automatic feature, Shimamoku wood trim available, real leather pad for steering wheel, airbag off switch gets a pictogram, and a heater is added to PCS camera sensor.
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