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Old 11-19-17, 11:37 PM
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But sometimes (it's becoming more frequent nowadays) it is not me (the driver), but others that MAY CAUSE me to end up UPSIDE DOWN!!!

I think any little additional strength gained is a good thing. Otherwise you might end up like in these crashes:



The last video above is very interesting. The Chinese car manufacturer made an argument that careful driver's DO NOT need safe cars!!!! What a BS response. I realize that over time the Chinese car manufacturers will improve just like the Japanese and Korean car manufacturers did many years ago.




Fast forward about ten years to 2017 as you watch the video right above. The Chinese manufacturer had made GREAT PROGRESS in safety!! I hope they continue BEFORE the Chinese made cars start to flood the US market!!

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Carroll Smith said 40 years ago (on the difference between 4130 and mild steel), paraphrased: "In a light accident, either material is sufficient. At terminal speed, neither will save you. For the theoretical advantage of greater strength to have any real world application, you must anticipate a crash of sufficient severity to bend the mild cage (but not the moly cage), but not severe enough to bend both. That's a narrow window, and it doesn't occur frequently".

If you really expect to be upside down, you're driving too fast.
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Simple physics here. A 6,000 lb vehicle is going to fair VERY well in any type of crash. The same reason kids school bus's are safe and rarely have seatbelts. A high riding position, lots of steel and incredible mass.

If you want something smaller but still very safe, look at the Volvo XC90 (3rd row available). They use high strength steel (contains some boron) in the important bits. So much so the emergency first responders had to change the tools they use to be able to cut through it to extract passengers.
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Originally Posted by UCrazyKid
If you want something smaller but still very safe, look at the Volvo XC90 (3rd row available). They use high strength steel (contains some boron) in the important bits. So much so the emergency first responders had to change the tools they use to be able to cut through it to extract passengers.
Volvo may use high strength steel, but that does nothing for overall reliability...which is far below a 200 series truck.
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Originally Posted by hankinid
Volvo may use high strength steel, but that does nothing for overall reliability...which is far below a 200 series truck.
Agreed, but the op was about safety and construction...
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