Love my LX - But...
#16
BTW, I think that FJ Cruiser and 4Runner do not belong to Wrangler category. There is just one Toyota which could be a competition for Wrangler. It's LC 70 series but Toyota does not want to bring it to the USA :-(
#17
Pole Position
More than enough of posers here...and the posers suppose that Toyota directs Land Cruiser and LX drivers to daily driving on paved roads.
Yes, I agree but I just wanted to say that LX with a different bumpers could do Rubicon Trail. Just a few (or more) well placed stones...(and plenty of time and experience).
BTW, I think that FJ Cruiser and 4Runner do not belong to Wrangler category. There is just one Toyota which could be a competition for Wrangler. It's LC 70 series but Toyota does not want to bring it to the USA :-(
BTW, I think that FJ Cruiser and 4Runner do not belong to Wrangler category. There is just one Toyota which could be a competition for Wrangler. It's LC 70 series but Toyota does not want to bring it to the USA :-(
#18
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Do a bit of searching as to Range Rover's current "quality"...a British design built in India???....what could go wrong?
What ARE you talking about?
How does your trite nothingness even address my post?
Here - So you can read it again...
"And that is my point - LEXUS LS is supposed to be FLAGSHIP - but it ain't holding it's own.
And the LX - isn't close to being a FLAGSHIP in this day and age...
But Toyota could...
What ARE you talking about?
How does your trite nothingness even address my post?
Here - So you can read it again...
"And that is my point - LEXUS LS is supposed to be FLAGSHIP - but it ain't holding it's own.
And the LX - isn't close to being a FLAGSHIP in this day and age...
But Toyota could...
#19
I have many friends in the Czech Republic who purchased them here (one of the biggest Toyota dealership in the Czech Republic):
https://www.dajbych.cz/toyota/land-cruiser-rada-70
#20
Range Rover is built in UK just like Jaguar. TATA the Indian co. Just owns the company. May be some parts are assembled in India for some markets but nothing more. They are also losing money on that just like BMW lost. Something is wrong with the brand. Now coming back to Lexus. I think they are satisfied with sales of Lx, They are selling what they can handle. Japanese are very conservative, they just make evolutionary changes, nothing revolutionary .
#21
Lexus Champion
Darn it LEXUS!
Luv my LX - but it's ELEVEN years old!
Every high end manufacturer is putting out amazing new Luxury SUV's - and they quickly become the best selling model.
Even Lamborghini ! (Their new Urus is sold out for months and it's not being delivered yet!)
And...Lambo plans on building 3,500 for 2019 - that is half of total production.
(LEXUS sold 3,884 of my 2015 vintage LX!)
Same for Bentley / RR etc.
Replace the LS as the Flagship of the brand with a new three row Lux SUV.
Something on the order of a 2018 Navigator.
500 hp minimum / BIG / capable off road / tow 10-12,000
And make a smaller variant that's more nimble but truly Lux
I so want a Navigator (If you drive one so will YOU!) but the dealer / service experience can't be matched - LEXUS is the best.
Luv my LX - but it's ELEVEN years old!
Every high end manufacturer is putting out amazing new Luxury SUV's - and they quickly become the best selling model.
Even Lamborghini ! (Their new Urus is sold out for months and it's not being delivered yet!)
And...Lambo plans on building 3,500 for 2019 - that is half of total production.
(LEXUS sold 3,884 of my 2015 vintage LX!)
Same for Bentley / RR etc.
Replace the LS as the Flagship of the brand with a new three row Lux SUV.
Something on the order of a 2018 Navigator.
500 hp minimum / BIG / capable off road / tow 10-12,000
And make a smaller variant that's more nimble but truly Lux
I so want a Navigator (If you drive one so will YOU!) but the dealer / service experience can't be matched - LEXUS is the best.
#22
Lexus Champion
Range Rover is built in UK just like Jaguar. TATA the Indian co. Just owns the company. May be some parts are assembled in India for some markets but nothing more. They are also losing money on that just like BMW lost. Something is wrong with the brand. Now coming back to Lexus. I think they are satisfied with sales of Lx, They are selling what they can handle. Japanese are very conservative, they just make evolutionary changes, nothing revolutionary .
#23
One of my managers purchased a 2017 Range Rover Sport. In the first 8 months, it spent about 3 months of that in the shop for various issues. They finally paid him $15,000 to keep the car until the end of the lease and also agreed to cover any issues under warranty regardless of miles. It was cheaper for them to do this than take it back as a lemon. My 2010 LX was traded in for a new 2017 LX with 160,000 miles and zero problems. 2017 LX has been flawless since I got it in October 2017. Its the only SUV i'll buy. (My wife thinks the LX is too big for her, so she drives the RX-350 which is very nice and very reliable too) I would agree though, that the current LX is outdated and need to be seriously upgraded. But upgraded should mean, keep its rugged reliability and improve ride quality, luxury, center row captain seats, better fuel mileage (or increase range) and a touch screen please. But whatever they do, don't do to the LX what Lexus did to the LS!
#24
Lexus Champion
One of my managers purchased a 2017 Range Rover Sport. In the first 8 months, it spent about 3 months of that in the shop for various issues. They finally paid him $15,000 to keep the car until the end of the lease and also agreed to cover any issues under warranty regardless of miles. It was cheaper for them to do this than take it back as a lemon. My 2010 LX was traded in for a new 2017 LX with 160,000 miles and zero problems. 2017 LX has been flawless since I got it in October 2017. Its the only SUV i'll buy. (My wife thinks the LX is too big for her, so she drives the RX-350 which is very nice and very reliable too) I would agree though, that the current LX is outdated and need to be seriously upgraded. But upgraded should mean, keep its rugged reliability and improve ride quality, luxury, center row captain seats, better fuel mileage (or increase range) and a touch screen please. But whatever they do, don't do to the LX what Lexus did to the LS!
#25
#26
Racer
The US and china are the biggest markets, and right now, all the craze is SUV.
You think they care about catering primarily too off road people around the world? Its a business, they want to make money.
They designed the LX to be bullet proof but I guarantee u they will do whatever means necessary to increase sales, whether
that means putting in twin turbos or not and upping the power and technology (which is likely coming) so get ready for it. The navigator is selling like
hot cakes now I gather for the latest technology. Styling is a joke. I don't see any other reason anyone would sink 100 gs into that.
You think they care about catering primarily too off road people around the world? Its a business, they want to make money.
They designed the LX to be bullet proof but I guarantee u they will do whatever means necessary to increase sales, whether
that means putting in twin turbos or not and upping the power and technology (which is likely coming) so get ready for it. The navigator is selling like
hot cakes now I gather for the latest technology. Styling is a joke. I don't see any other reason anyone would sink 100 gs into that.
#27
Intermediate
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The new LS500 feels like a mid-size by comparison.
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