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#16
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#17
I would guess the average owner of a brand new LX will never take it off pavement. A few might, but most won’t.
I think most Lexus buyers go into the showroom and want to the the largest SUV they make and simply purchase that.
Might be interesting to see if any former Toyota buyers purchase the LX, since no Landcruiser is sold in the US market. There are plenty of buyers of Landcruisers that take it off road on day one.
I think most Lexus buyers go into the showroom and want to the the largest SUV they make and simply purchase that.
Might be interesting to see if any former Toyota buyers purchase the LX, since no Landcruiser is sold in the US market. There are plenty of buyers of Landcruisers that take it off road on day one.
#18
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I would guess the average owner of a brand new LX will never take it off pavement. A few might, but most won’t.
I think most Lexus buyers go into the showroom and want to the the largest SUV they make and simply purchase that.
Might be interesting to see if any former Toyota buyers purchase the LX, since no Landcruiser is sold in the US market. There are plenty of buyers of Landcruisers that take it off road on day one.
I think most Lexus buyers go into the showroom and want to the the largest SUV they make and simply purchase that.
Might be interesting to see if any former Toyota buyers purchase the LX, since no Landcruiser is sold in the US market. There are plenty of buyers of Landcruisers that take it off road on day one.
I had to make a three point turn to get out - scratched the passenger side.
My sweetie - just gave me "The Look"...from the passenger seat - "THE LOOK" . . . didn't say a word - bless her
Drove home - super minor wax - out it came.
My sons Jeep was in the driveway - 35inch tires - lockers - roll cage - traversed the Rubicon many times - - what a dip wade I be!!!
Last edited by AON; 10-18-21 at 04:24 PM.
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ClaytonW (10-19-21)
#19
And braindead TOYOTA - led by braindead Mr. Toyoda - will be BK within five years....
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
#20
I have a place on the Tahoe west shore - just a few miles away from the Rubicon Trail . . . the week I got my latest LX - 2018 - I dove maybe 200 yards up the trail - So yeah - I took my BRAND NEW LX on the Rubicon!!!
I had to make a three point turn to get out - scratched the passenger side.
My sweetie - just gave me "The Look"...from the passenger seat - "THE LOOK" . . . didn't say a word - bless her
Drove home - super minor wax - out it came.
My sons Jeep was in the driveway - 35inch tires - lockers - roll cage - traversed the Rubicon many times - - what a dip wade I be!!!
I had to make a three point turn to get out - scratched the passenger side.
My sweetie - just gave me "The Look"...from the passenger seat - "THE LOOK" . . . didn't say a word - bless her
Drove home - super minor wax - out it came.
My sons Jeep was in the driveway - 35inch tires - lockers - roll cage - traversed the Rubicon many times - - what a dip wade I be!!!
#21
And braindead TOYOTA - led by braindead Mr. Toyoda - will be BK within five years....
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
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JennK (10-19-21)
#22
And braindead TOYOTA - led by braindead Mr. Toyoda - will be BK within five years....
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
Artificial Intelligence company TESLA will be producing more robots (cars) next year than BMW and more than FORD the year after.
Toyota is nowhere to be seen - they deserve to die and will.
Mr Toyoda will be performing Seppuku soon - he has disgraced his family - his company - his legacy - and tarnished Japan...
If I may suggest go get yourself a Tesla and get over it.
#23
Driver School Candidate
The hatred for Toyota is intense lol. If you follow with Toyota/Lexus news they've been making major moves below media reach but now it's beginning to unravel. Time and time again there will always be doubters and yet Toyota still presses on without being tarnished. Doubting Toyota is like doubting Coke Cola. People are still gonna drink it just like people are still gonna buy a Toyota/Lexus.
For sure - just ask the CEO's of NOKIA and Blackberry about disruptive / destructive change!!!
Hatred maybe a bit strong braindead leadership that destroyed a magnificent organization.
Horses were the dominate form of land transport for 10,000 years - with 10 years horses were being slaughtered and the new Auto industry was worth some 100 X what the horse industry ever was.
BEV 'cars' are similar - but with TESLA autonomy - really truly game over
Last edited by AON; 10-22-21 at 10:11 AM.
#24
Driver School Candidate
I do have a Models S Plaid - got it last day of September - parked in garage next to 20154LS460 F-Sport and 2018 LX-570
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years
Last edited by AON; 10-22-21 at 10:05 AM.
#25
Driver School Candidate
The hatred for Toyota is intense lol. If you follow with Toyota/Lexus news they've been making major moves below media reach but now it's beginning to unravel. Time and time again there will always be doubters and yet Toyota still presses on without being tarnished. Doubting Toyota is like doubting Coke Cola. People are still gonna drink it just like people are still gonna buy a Toyota/Lexus.
Major moves with politicians / unions to stop BEV's - because they are braindead
Did you watch their last shareholder meeting a few months back?
Will develop a variety of powertrains - and figure out which is best in 2050....LOLOLOLOLOL
TESLA will be producing 20 million 'cars' / year by the end of decade
#26
No split tailgate and no offroad, sounds like a downgrade to me. I'm going with the Range Rover or GLS instead.
Although I never off road, it's nice to know I could if I wanted to.
Although I never off road, it's nice to know I could if I wanted to.
#27
Wow you guys are really.... passionate...... Strap on some 18's w/ all terrain tires & have at it if that's what your into.
If you were in crawl mode & used the steering assist you probably could have done a U turn with-in your own foot print instead of a 3 point turn.
I'm not even going to comment on the reliability, depreciation & off road capabilities of euro vehicles. A word to the wise, never marry a European. Rent her for 3 or 4 years & give her back before she costs you your life savings.
I have a place on the Tahoe west shore - just a few miles away from the Rubicon Trail . . . the week I got my latest LX - 2018 - I dove maybe 200 yards up the trail - So yeah - I took my BRAND NEW LX on the Rubicon!!!
I had to make a three point turn to get out - scratched the passenger side.
My sweetie - just gave me "The Look"...from the passenger seat - "THE LOOK" . . . didn't say a word - bless her
Drove home - super minor wax - out it came.
My sons Jeep was in the driveway - 35inch tires - lockers - roll cage - traversed the Rubicon many times - - what a dip wade I be!!!
I had to make a three point turn to get out - scratched the passenger side.
My sweetie - just gave me "The Look"...from the passenger seat - "THE LOOK" . . . didn't say a word - bless her
Drove home - super minor wax - out it came.
My sons Jeep was in the driveway - 35inch tires - lockers - roll cage - traversed the Rubicon many times - - what a dip wade I be!!!
I'm not even going to comment on the reliability, depreciation & off road capabilities of euro vehicles. A word to the wise, never marry a European. Rent her for 3 or 4 years & give her back before she costs you your life savings.
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GregCanada (10-25-21)
#28
I do have a Models S Plaid - got it last day of September - parked in garage next to 20154LS460 F-Sport and 2018 LX-570
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years
I have been working in self driving field since 2015.
Tesla FSD is a joke and the way Elon is pushing it simply will kill more people and introduce more bad human behavior.
Tesla is not ahead in self driving. In fact it’s probably one of the most behind because it has zero redundancy build in.
While GM/Honda cruise, Waymo,… are already so far ahead in terms of solving discrepancy from conflicting data from different sensor suite, Tesla approach was to throw redundancy away.
This is exactly the issue with 737 max MCAS. Rely on single point of failure to make decision.
FSD in personal vehicle in its current state of power consumption and cooling requirement isn’t practical. It will need at least another 5 years for sensors and processor to further lithography reduction.
If you want to kill yourself by using a L2 system, please do it in empty highway.
Last edited by chiawei; 10-27-21 at 02:07 AM.
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kristisipe (10-27-21)
#29
Major moves with politicians / unions to stop BEV's - because they are braindead
Did you watch their last shareholder meeting a few months back?
Will develop a variety of powertrains - and figure out which is best in 2050....LOLOLOLOLOL
TESLA will be producing 20 million 'cars' / year by the end of decade
Did you watch their last shareholder meeting a few months back?
Will develop a variety of powertrains - and figure out which is best in 2050....LOLOLOLOLOL
TESLA will be producing 20 million 'cars' / year by the end of decade
NHTSA has not done its job to protect the public. More people will die because over trusting a system that was never build to achieve the ASIL level required for true self driving.
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kristisipe (10-27-21)
#30
I do have a Models S Plaid - got it last day of September - parked in garage next to 20154LS460 F-Sport and 2018 LX-570
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years
The difference is like riding a horse and getting into a modern Gulfstream - the FSD is amazing!
TESLA is more of a software / computer company than 'car' company - their leadership in artificial intelligence / software is insurmountable.
They really are an artificial intelligence company making robots!
They have the largest most advanced super/AI computer in the world - proprietary hardware and software.
BTW - I've owned around 15 LEXUS' over the years - all new - all LS's and LX's with one GS430.
The 2018 LX is my last LEXUS - the biggest turn off was the day I picked it up.
I had sold my 2015 LX a few weeks back and found exactly what I wanted - bought it over the phone.
I had never sat in a 2018 before - and when I closed the door for the first time it sounded like a tin can with zero insulation - I was horrifies - tried front and rear doors - all the same - sounded like a cheap bottom feeder car.
The first LEXUS I do not look forward to getting into.
I'm a huge fan of LEXUS and big time gear head - raced motorcycles (track) and cars - too much wrench turning to recall.
But I've drunk the Kool-Aide
And TOYODA's leadership at TOYOTA is a disaster - they are too far behind to even think of joining the race.
BK within 5 years