Fram X2 Filter
11-13-04, 07:23 PM
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Fram X2 Filter
Did I just make a mistake.
I purchased the Fram X2 oil filter for the Rx, the 7000 mile filter. Was this a bad choice, should I have the shop swap this out with an OEm filter?
Thanks
I purchased the Fram X2 oil filter for the Rx, the 7000 mile filter. Was this a bad choice, should I have the shop swap this out with an OEm filter?
Thanks
11-13-04, 07:26 PM
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It;'s way better than a run of the mill Fram, but it's also overpriced for what it is. IF you bought it at Pep Boys or AutoZone, i would exchange it for a Purolator or STP filter.
11-13-04, 10:29 PM
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I haven't heard any good things about Fram filters. Stock filters are the best and are reasonably priced. Go to a Toyota dealer and get it there, Lexus and Toyota filters are the same thing (same part number too). If Toyota says they cannot help you because it's a Lexus, call Lexus for the part # then call Toyota and ask for that specific part from them.
11-13-04, 11:34 PM
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fram has a SERIOUS issue with thier drainback valve...id exchange it. i hav seen motors blow rod bearings cause fo these filters. often they lead to "dry" starts as well.
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11-14-04, 08:55 AM
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Fram filters are planned obsolesence filters http://www.saber.net/~monarch/fram.jpg so they are fine for planned obsolesence American cars, but they will degrade the reliability and durability potential of Asian cars.
11-14-04, 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by saber
Fram filters are planned obsolesence filters http://www.saber.net/~monarch/fram.jpg so they are fine for planned obsolesence American cars, but they will degrade the reliability and durability potential of Asian cars.
Fram filters are planned obsolesence filters http://www.saber.net/~monarch/fram.jpg so they are fine for planned obsolesence American cars, but they will degrade the reliability and durability potential of Asian cars.
in short FRAM IS BAD.
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11-15-04, 07:58 AM
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I personally did not like the Toyota filter, thought I am sure it is better than most. Found it was not filtering well enough when I checked my oil.
Switched to a K&N Gold and have had no problems, and much easier to put on and remove in an RX.
I also heard good things about the Mobil Filter.
Switched to a K&N Gold and have had no problems, and much easier to put on and remove in an RX.
I also heard good things about the Mobil Filter.
11-15-04, 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by kutscher
Back it goes, and off to the toyota dealer I will go.
Thanks!
Back it goes, and off to the toyota dealer I will go.
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11-15-04, 05:52 PM
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Like others said: Fram = bad. I've known guys who had their $10k+ race engines ruined by glue separating from the CARDBOARD filter ends in these filters and going straight into their main and rod bearings. Something to watch out for: there are lots of "brands" of filters but only about 3 or 4 actual manufacturers. Many filters are simply painted filters made by either Fram, Wix, Champion, or AC Delco. For example, STP filters are repainted Delco's and are usually cheaper. I believe the Pennzoil filters are repainted Frams, so watch out. Be sure you know you are buying a good filter
I've been using Mobil 1 filters and I'm happy with them. There was some discussion about production for the OEM Toyota filter being moved from Japan to Mexico and I never heard a verdict on the quality of the new filter, as it was a different design. Anyone have an answer about the OEM?
I've been using Mobil 1 filters and I'm happy with them. There was some discussion about production for the OEM Toyota filter being moved from Japan to Mexico and I never heard a verdict on the quality of the new filter, as it was a different design. Anyone have an answer about the OEM?
11-15-04, 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Stupidnewb
Something to watch out for: there are lots of "brands" of filters but only about 3 or 4 actual manufacturers. Many filters are simply painted filters made by either Fram, Wix, Champion, or AC Delco.
Something to watch out for: there are lots of "brands" of filters but only about 3 or 4 actual manufacturers. Many filters are simply painted filters made by either Fram, Wix, Champion, or AC Delco.
Exxon Mobil
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11-15-04, 07:53 PM
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Yes, but nearly all filters sold at parts stores are from American brands, which is where many people buy their filters. If someone buys an aftermarket , non-OEM filter they should be aware that they may be buying a filter they are trying to avoid simply because it has been re-painted.
11-15-04, 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Stupidnewb
Yes, but nearly all filters sold at parts stores are from American brands, which is where many people buy their filters. If someone buys an aftermarket , non-OEM filter they should be aware that they may be buying a filter they are trying to avoid simply because it has been re-painted.
Yes, but nearly all filters sold at parts stores are from American brands, which is where many people buy their filters. If someone buys an aftermarket , non-OEM filter they should be aware that they may be buying a filter they are trying to avoid simply because it has been re-painted.
Jiffy Lube
Pennzoil
Quaker State
Mopar
Honda
Wix:
Napa
Pro-Tec
Champion:
SuperTech
STP
Mobil 1
K&N
some Mopar
factory-installed Motorcraft
Bosch
Valucraft
Purolator:
Subaru
Motorcraft - Aftermarket
some Mopar
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11-16-04, 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by nthach
Fram:
Honda
Purolator:
Subaru
Fram:
Honda
Purolator:
Subaru
Case in point: The Toyota 08922-02011 oil filter http://www.saber.net/~monarch/oilfil20211.jpg which is Toyota approved for use on the Lexus RX 300/330 and ES 300/330 V6 engines. This Toyota 08922-02011 is made by Purolator, and has the same physical dimenions as the equivalent Purolator Pure One oil filter that you can find in auto parts stores, but there are external and internal differences. Here are two external differences:
http://www.saber.net/~monarch/filter.jpg A third difference is that the walls of the Toyota version are 23% thicker and heavier. Internally, there are subtle differences as well.