Oils Filters??? What Brand do you use?
#17
Lexus Champion
"LTVibe, Their is no such thing as a one manufacture Toyota Filter. The dealers get fitlers from all over the world. Toyota filter design and nomenclature is very very confuseing. It is a can of worms you really do not want to open unless you are truly comitted as it will confuse 98% of the board. To make matters worse each country that has a Denso filter company has some variation of the many Toyota filters.
Here in the USA it used to be Puro/Denso but denso bought out Purolators portion of the plant. The USA made Denso look nothing like the one cut open and detailed in this post. The USA made Denso's look like a Puraltor andhave the oval inlet holes and do not have the over torque protection. The 90915-YZZA1 pictured above is a Thailand knock off of the Japanesse filter 90915-YZZZ1. The Japanesse filter has even more of the exotic fiberglass like Toyota media(about 30% more), has a plastic center like a Chapion Ecore with long slits instead of holes but it is yellow in color and it does not have a bypass valve if my memory is correct. The Japanesse made ones are hard to come buy and cost a lot more.
Some of the Toyota filters available in the USA have a conventional media and design just like what you would expect to find in a Puralator but they have the Toyota end plate, over torque protection and shrink wraped and pre luped with silicone grease.
I am not trying to confuse you but last I checked their were at least 6 different versions of oil filters on the market sold by Toyota dealers as geniune oem Toyota/Denso oil filter for my application in a red and white box. It just depends if it was made in japan,Thailand,Brasil,China etc.... and wich version it is from that plant etc......"
Here in the USA it used to be Puro/Denso but denso bought out Purolators portion of the plant. The USA made Denso look nothing like the one cut open and detailed in this post. The USA made Denso's look like a Puraltor andhave the oval inlet holes and do not have the over torque protection. The 90915-YZZA1 pictured above is a Thailand knock off of the Japanesse filter 90915-YZZZ1. The Japanesse filter has even more of the exotic fiberglass like Toyota media(about 30% more), has a plastic center like a Chapion Ecore with long slits instead of holes but it is yellow in color and it does not have a bypass valve if my memory is correct. The Japanesse made ones are hard to come buy and cost a lot more.
Some of the Toyota filters available in the USA have a conventional media and design just like what you would expect to find in a Puralator but they have the Toyota end plate, over torque protection and shrink wraped and pre luped with silicone grease.
I am not trying to confuse you but last I checked their were at least 6 different versions of oil filters on the market sold by Toyota dealers as geniune oem Toyota/Denso oil filter for my application in a red and white box. It just depends if it was made in japan,Thailand,Brasil,China etc.... and wich version it is from that plant etc......"
This is BS, the Toyota filters are all made to Toyota spec., only filter I have and would use on my Toyota's Lexus. Never had a problem in over 20++ years of Toyota ownership, doing Toyota recommended OCI's with both quality dino and synthetic oils.
#19
If you ever cut open different Toyota filters, you will see the filter material and designs are different. Here is one link that shows they are different
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/par...ter/index.html
#20
What type of filter do you use?
I usually buy what is on sale usually Purolater, Fram or Bosch.
Being that I change my oil every 3k does it really matter all that much what filter you use? Any thoughts??
Are there any brands I should avoid, Many people tell me not to use Fram?
Dazed and confused--
I usually buy what is on sale usually Purolater, Fram or Bosch.
Being that I change my oil every 3k does it really matter all that much what filter you use? Any thoughts??
Are there any brands I should avoid, Many people tell me not to use Fram?
Dazed and confused--
#21
Lexus Champion
What is Toyota's spec anyway. Please save the "because it is Toyota branded, so it must satisfy Toyota's spec" circular argument. any support evidence such as they have the same filtration effeciency or having the bypass valve design
If you ever cut open different Toyota filters, you will see the filter material and designs are different. Here is one link that shows they are different
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/par...ter/index.html
If you ever cut open different Toyota filters, you will see the filter material and designs are different. Here is one link that shows they are different
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/par...ter/index.html
What's your point? Different filters for different cars and engines. Just because the Lexus filter fits on the Supra doesn't make the Toyota Supra filter not up to the job of filtering the oil for the recommended oil change interval.
#22
Second, I suggest you to check your assumption "Different filters for different cars and engines." Here is one way
www.irontoad.com
2000 GS300 OEM oil filter part # is 90915-YZZD1, it is the same oil filter used in 2000 RX300. But RX's 1mzfe is not the same engine as GS's 2jzge
This is ONE example of one Toyota filter that is used by multiple engines.
Third, let me ask again since you made the statement "Toyota filters are all made to Toyota spec", what is Toyota's filteration and bypass valve pressure spec?
#23
Lexus Champion
First, there is no Lexus oil filter, there is only Toyota filter.
Second, I suggest you to check your assumption "Different filters for different cars and engines." Here is one way
www.irontoad.com
2000 GS300 OEM oil filter part # is 90915-YZZD1, it is the same oil filter used in 2000 RX300. But RX's 1mzfe is not the same engine as GS's 2jzge
This is ONE example of one Toyota filter that is used by multiple engines.
Third, let me ask again since you made the statement "Toyota filters are all made to Toyota spec", what is Toyota's filteration and bypass valve pressure spec?
Second, I suggest you to check your assumption "Different filters for different cars and engines." Here is one way
www.irontoad.com
2000 GS300 OEM oil filter part # is 90915-YZZD1, it is the same oil filter used in 2000 RX300. But RX's 1mzfe is not the same engine as GS's 2jzge
This is ONE example of one Toyota filter that is used by multiple engines.
Third, let me ask again since you made the statement "Toyota filters are all made to Toyota spec", what is Toyota's filteration and bypass valve pressure spec?
#24
Just because you don't care, it does not mean others don't. This is a forum, and everyone has his/her own opinion and rightly so. But you have made assumptions that turned out to be wrong and call another member's post "BS" yet have not provided any data.
#25
Lexus Champion
Trust me after reading 3000 posts on oil and filters most people get to the point that they don't care anymore and come to the conclusion that using Toyota parts and a good quality oil is good enough. I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want with their own money I'm just saying it is BS to "suggest" that any Toyota filter that is made to work on your vehicle is anything other then OK for your car and will do the job it was made to do. You can cut open all of the filters you want and it doesn't prove anything.
#26
Trust me after reading 3000 posts on oil and filters most people get to the point that they don't care anymore and come to the conclusion that using Toyota parts and a good quality oil is good enough. I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want with their own money I'm just saying it is BS to "suggest" that any Toyota filter that is made to work on your vehicle is anything other then OK for your car and will do the job it was made to do. You can cut open all of the filters you want and it doesn't prove anything.
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