Did you know..?
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Did you know..?
Did you know that when you buy a brand new Lexus from the dealer it will come equipped with tires that are expected to last only 15,000-20,000 miles??
My dad bought a 2007 IS250 last year when they first came out. We've had it for about a year. It already has about 32,000 miles on it since he does use it to travel up and down California. I took it in to my work the other day because I noticed there was a nail on one of the fronts. When we unbolted the wheels we noticed that the inner edges were chewed up pretty bad but the middle section was still at about 4/32nds of tread. I took it to the dealer to see if they can do about it. I thought it had some type of alignment issue. But they had told me that all the new Lexus vehicles have extreme caster because of their weight and handling. I also spoke with the Service adviser about the tire wear issue since the car only has about 32,000 miles. They said they were very surprised to hear that I even got that amount of miles out of those tires. He then took me to around the dealership and pointed out the stickers on every Lexus that stated that the vehicle was equipped with a high performance tire that is expected to last about 15,000-20,000 miles. Was anyone else aware of this when you first purchased your Lexus brand new from the dealer? It certainly shocked me.
My dad bought a 2007 IS250 last year when they first came out. We've had it for about a year. It already has about 32,000 miles on it since he does use it to travel up and down California. I took it in to my work the other day because I noticed there was a nail on one of the fronts. When we unbolted the wheels we noticed that the inner edges were chewed up pretty bad but the middle section was still at about 4/32nds of tread. I took it to the dealer to see if they can do about it. I thought it had some type of alignment issue. But they had told me that all the new Lexus vehicles have extreme caster because of their weight and handling. I also spoke with the Service adviser about the tire wear issue since the car only has about 32,000 miles. They said they were very surprised to hear that I even got that amount of miles out of those tires. He then took me to around the dealership and pointed out the stickers on every Lexus that stated that the vehicle was equipped with a high performance tire that is expected to last about 15,000-20,000 miles. Was anyone else aware of this when you first purchased your Lexus brand new from the dealer? It certainly shocked me.
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they have it stated in the "fine prints"....heh heh heh...
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html
[11]17-in tires are expected to experience greater tire wear than conventional tires. Tire life may be substantially less than 20,000 miles, depending on driving conditions. Please see your Lexus dealer for details and other information relating to tire selection.
[12]18-in tires are expected to experience greater tire wear than conventional tires. Tire life may be substantially less than 15,000 miles, depending on driving conditions. Please see your Lexus dealer for details and other information relating to tire selection.
I will be looking for a new set real soon....
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html
[11]17-in tires are expected to experience greater tire wear than conventional tires. Tire life may be substantially less than 20,000 miles, depending on driving conditions. Please see your Lexus dealer for details and other information relating to tire selection.
[12]18-in tires are expected to experience greater tire wear than conventional tires. Tire life may be substantially less than 15,000 miles, depending on driving conditions. Please see your Lexus dealer for details and other information relating to tire selection.
I will be looking for a new set real soon....
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Haha yeah I though it was weird how they kind of left out that important detail. All the service advisors were shocked to hear we had gotten almost 31,000 out of them. Those Bridgestone Potenzas are the worst. So I threw on the Potenza RE050AS which have a much higher tread wear rating and have a 40,000 mile warranty.
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wow, i guess it is all in how you drive or how the alignment is set. so far on my S03's i've put on 20k with plenty of tread still left. Joe at CA can attest to that when we did the alignment last week.
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Haha yeah I though it was weird how they kind of left out that important detail. All the service advisors were shocked to hear we had gotten almost 31,000 out of them. Those Bridgestone Potenzas are the worst. So I threw on the Potenza RE050AS which have a much higher tread wear rating and have a 40,000 mile warranty.
wow! thanks for the info.......
you gotta hook me up with that....I might need that soon...?
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jspec,
I did not know that and if I did, I would have changed out the Dun-flops runflats when I bought the car. By the time I put 30K on it, my inner tire wheel well were exposing the wires.
Luckily, because of this club, I was able to get the right non-runflat tires w/ way more treadwear life on them.
teeman3
I did not know that and if I did, I would have changed out the Dun-flops runflats when I bought the car. By the time I put 30K on it, my inner tire wheel well were exposing the wires.
Luckily, because of this club, I was able to get the right non-runflat tires w/ way more treadwear life on them.
teeman3
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The UTQG (Uniform Tire Quality Grade by NHTSA) tells how much you get beat out on a tire under normal useage (about 10k miles in one year usage). The vehicle manufacturers intend to put on best tires focusing on "Riding Comfort" to stand out their vehicles when test drive.
O/E tires used by ISx50...
Bridgestone Potenza RE050, UTQG 140, no mileage warranty.
Bridgestone Turanza ER30, UTQG 140, no mileage warranty.
And my suggestion...
Briggestone Potenza RE960, UTQG 400, 40k mileage warranty (if alignment is acceptable)
These are high performance tires (Z category = W/Y/Z speed rated) and most manufacturers does not cover mileage warranty under Z category tires. Also, any o/e tire on new vehicle is not covered with any warranty.... not from car dealer, not from tire manufacturer.
Just like Mercedes and BMWs, the ISx50 has extreme caster setup even at o/e spec for better traction control, and the tires will eat up faster and unevenly. The caster get worse if lowering the vehicle or equipping with custom wide-width/off-set wheels.
Everyone has different driving preference on tires. There are the factors of traction in dry, traction in wet, heat resistance, thread wear rate, cost, look, and average noise. In general, soft tires produce less road noise but give less mileage, and long lasting tires does not have good traction.
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BTW, 30k miles on BRS050 is a miracle! If you see wires already that means those tires were overkilled a long time ago. So.. no miracle I guess.
O/E tires used by ISx50...
Bridgestone Potenza RE050, UTQG 140, no mileage warranty.
Bridgestone Turanza ER30, UTQG 140, no mileage warranty.
And my suggestion...
Briggestone Potenza RE960, UTQG 400, 40k mileage warranty (if alignment is acceptable)
These are high performance tires (Z category = W/Y/Z speed rated) and most manufacturers does not cover mileage warranty under Z category tires. Also, any o/e tire on new vehicle is not covered with any warranty.... not from car dealer, not from tire manufacturer.
Just like Mercedes and BMWs, the ISx50 has extreme caster setup even at o/e spec for better traction control, and the tires will eat up faster and unevenly. The caster get worse if lowering the vehicle or equipping with custom wide-width/off-set wheels.
Everyone has different driving preference on tires. There are the factors of traction in dry, traction in wet, heat resistance, thread wear rate, cost, look, and average noise. In general, soft tires produce less road noise but give less mileage, and long lasting tires does not have good traction.
edit
BTW, 30k miles on BRS050 is a miracle! If you see wires already that means those tires were overkilled a long time ago. So.. no miracle I guess.
Last edited by josephdoc; 09-07-07 at 12:29 PM.
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