Wheel alignment recommendations
#18
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Tire Outlet has been aligning Slammed Lexus for over 7 years now. I can stop by there any time or day and there's almost always a ClubLexus member having work done there .
Here's the alignment pit that they have, no issues with clearance here.
Note the drop level of my car in this pic. I'm on 20's with 285's in back and 235's in front. No fender pull just Full shave in back and slight roll in front. I have Zero rub FRONT AND REAR including turning the front wheels fully locked and driving one wheel up on wooden blocks with the car up in the air on just the one front wheel. Again ZERO RUB.
Here's the alignment pit that they have, no issues with clearance here.
Note the drop level of my car in this pic. I'm on 20's with 285's in back and 235's in front. No fender pull just Full shave in back and slight roll in front. I have Zero rub FRONT AND REAR including turning the front wheels fully locked and driving one wheel up on wooden blocks with the car up in the air on just the one front wheel. Again ZERO RUB.
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#19
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Here's my front tire alignment specs.
With the"right" suspension parts provided by Tire Outlet my Toe and Camber are ALL GREEN* and completely within FACTORY spec.
AGAIN note this alignement is with my car slammed as you see it in the photos above.
So here's my challenge. Can ANYONE show me their Alignment specs from their shop where the toe and camber are within OEM spec with the same level of drop I have?
* Note that caster is not in spec, but check with anyone who understands suspension geometry and they will tell you this is not a big concern.
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With the"right" suspension parts provided by Tire Outlet my Toe and Camber are ALL GREEN* and completely within FACTORY spec.
AGAIN note this alignement is with my car slammed as you see it in the photos above.
So here's my challenge. Can ANYONE show me their Alignment specs from their shop where the toe and camber are within OEM spec with the same level of drop I have?
* Note that caster is not in spec, but check with anyone who understands suspension geometry and they will tell you this is not a big concern.
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#20
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Here's my rear alignment spec with the "right" suspension parts provided by Exact Motorsports and Figs Engineering and work performed by the alignement guru at Tire Outlet
Again my alignment is ALL GREEN within Factory Spec while slammed.
See if your alignment shop can align ALL IN SPEC on a car dropped about as much as mine.
If your shop can do this, then props to them, otherwise go to Tire Outlet Hands Down and Tell Joseph I sent you !!!
Most shops will tell you they CAN'T achieve this alignment if the car is slammed, but with the right aftermarket parts and an expert alignment tech it CAN be done.
I know there ARE other local shops out there that ARE competent, but I'd really like to see some SUBSTANCE in people's recommendations .
It would be great for people to describe WHY they are recommending versus just giving a shout out.
Again my alignment is ALL GREEN within Factory Spec while slammed.
See if your alignment shop can align ALL IN SPEC on a car dropped about as much as mine.
If your shop can do this, then props to them, otherwise go to Tire Outlet Hands Down and Tell Joseph I sent you !!!
Most shops will tell you they CAN'T achieve this alignment if the car is slammed, but with the right aftermarket parts and an expert alignment tech it CAN be done.
I know there ARE other local shops out there that ARE competent, but I'd really like to see some SUBSTANCE in people's recommendations .
It would be great for people to describe WHY they are recommending versus just giving a shout out.
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Do you have a camber kit?
I have no camber kit with a similar drop as you but my front tires are pretty much bald at 15k. I tried a few shops but they weren't able to fix the my toe or camber because I don't have a camber kit.
How much does Tire outlet charge?
I have no camber kit with a similar drop as you but my front tires are pretty much bald at 15k. I tried a few shops but they weren't able to fix the my toe or camber because I don't have a camber kit.
How much does Tire outlet charge?
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Yes a MUST for this application.
I can only speak for the 2GS. For the 2IS yes alignment is a challenge. There are "other" ways to improve on wear and Tire Outlet will do that. The science of understanding alignment is beyond most people and MANY shops. As an engineer IMO I'd say most alignment techs don't fully understand how to align / compensate the specs for a lowered car. The worst techs just adjust until the machine tells them its green and assume that any value within the green range is adequate. Not the case. In fact to take my specs and duplicate them on another car is not neccessarily going to be the correct setting either.
Call them - They are reasonable, but some people don't understand that in some cases u get what you pay for.
Call them - They are reasonable, but some people don't understand that in some cases u get what you pay for.
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Yes a MUST for this application.
I can only speak for the 2GS. For the 2IS yes alignment is a challenge. There are "other" ways to improve on wear and Tire Outlet will do that. The science of understanding alignment is beyond most people and MANY shops. As an engineer IMO I'd say most alignment techs don't fully understand how to align / compensate the specs for a lowered car. The worst techs just adjust until the machine tells them its green and assume that any value within the green range is adequate. Not the case. In fact to take my specs and duplicate them on another car is not neccessarily going to be the correct setting either.
Call them - They are reasonable, but some people don't understand that in some cases u get what you pay for.
I can only speak for the 2GS. For the 2IS yes alignment is a challenge. There are "other" ways to improve on wear and Tire Outlet will do that. The science of understanding alignment is beyond most people and MANY shops. As an engineer IMO I'd say most alignment techs don't fully understand how to align / compensate the specs for a lowered car. The worst techs just adjust until the machine tells them its green and assume that any value within the green range is adequate. Not the case. In fact to take my specs and duplicate them on another car is not neccessarily going to be the correct setting either.
Call them - They are reasonable, but some people don't understand that in some cases u get what you pay for.
So far the few shops I went to just let the computer try to adjust it to green. And they mostly focus on my camber not my toe.
I will have to shoot Tire Outlet a call tomorrow..
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Would it be pointless to go Tire Outlet without a camber kit? I do not have a camber and will not be buying one. I just want a shop to fix my toe to be within specs. Right now my camber and toe is in the red.
So far the few shops I went to just let the computer try to adjust it to green. And they mostly focus on my camber not my toe.
I will have to shoot Tire Outlet a call tomorrow..
So far the few shops I went to just let the computer try to adjust it to green. And they mostly focus on my camber not my toe.
I will have to shoot Tire Outlet a call tomorrow..
Pretty weird that toe cannot be adjusted to be Green but then again I don't know the 2IS that well. Camber may not be adjusted to spec, but again adjusting toe "properly" should help and when toe is Way Off you will chew up tires like crazy. Gone in under 5k miles.
A camber kit would be a solid fix, but in the mean time get the toe to compensate for excessive Camber.
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Pretty weird that toe cannot be adjusted to be Green but then again I don't know the 2IS that well. Camber may not be adjusted to spec, but again adjusting toe "properly" should help and when toe is Way Off you will chew up tires like crazy. Gone in under 5k miles.
A camber kit would be a solid fix, but in the mean time get the toe to compensate for excessive Camber.
A camber kit would be a solid fix, but in the mean time get the toe to compensate for excessive Camber.
I am currently talking to The Shop in San Bruno right now to see if they can fix my issue.