Remote Start with FOB
01-19-17, 08:01 AM
#91
Thanks to this thread I tried my key fob to remote start the NX this morning and it WORKED. My Enform remote start also works but it is PAINFULLY slow and unreliable. Mine is '17 FSport AWD with NAVI
01-19-17, 09:21 AM
#93
01-19-17, 09:26 AM
#94
Lexus Champion
A bit expensive IMO.
02-16-17, 07:53 PM
#97
Thanks for this forum on news like this! My dealer never said this either. I went out just now to try this & WOW! It works. My Enform
program also is spotty, at best. Most the time, it didn't start the car. FOB worked the first time. If this is tied to the Enform program,
that is sad of Lexus to shanghi a nice feature into a paid program. There is /going to be apps that someone will make this work!!
NXowner.. how's your programming skills going?
program also is spotty, at best. Most the time, it didn't start the car. FOB worked the first time. If this is tied to the Enform program,
that is sad of Lexus to shanghi a nice feature into a paid program. There is /going to be apps that someone will make this work!!
NXowner.. how's your programming skills going?
03-12-17, 07:03 PM
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My car starter
Isn't the car starter mine? I mean, didn't I pay for it? I can understand that Lexus owns the technology to remote start the vehicle, but don't I own the hardware that I should be able to start with the FOB?
03-13-17, 09:18 AM
#99
As I understand it, this FOB start was a "free" feature on earlier cars and also on Toyota's.
03-14-17, 03:04 PM
#100
Remote start with key fob
Mine is 2017 NX F sport no navi, to start the car with keyfob work, what actually the purpose of this because when you open the door the engine stop. So we open the door,get in than have to restart the car.
03-15-17, 07:20 PM
#102
Just bought my CPO NX200T last month. My salesman tells me I get a year of enform for free. Go to set it up have only 2 months left as previous owner had used it. Call salesman back and then he back peddles on the year commitment. Shame on him and shame on me for not getting it in writing. 
03-15-17, 07:30 PM
#103
Pole Position
03-16-17, 06:38 AM
#104
Lead Lap
It might be helpful to have a bit of history about remote starts on Lexus vehicles.
A number of years ago, Lexus was using the Remote Engine Start (RES). It was a about a $500 option, and it allowed for remote starting only with the key fob.
Around 2014 (varies by Lexus model), Lexus replaced the RES system with the RES+. It was about a $700-800 option, and it allowed for remote starting with either the key fob or a smart phone app. It also came with an $80 per year subscription. With the subscription, the car could be started with either the fob or the smart phone app. Without the paid subscription, key fob starting still worked, but the smart phone app starting was disabled.
Around 2015 (again, varies by model), Lexus replaced the RES+ system with the currently used Enform Remote Start. With the Enform Remote Start, Lexus began to include the hardware for the system on all vehicles at no extra charge, but it requires a paid subscription (after the first free year), to use remote start with either the fob or the smart phone app.
So, regardless of which of the 3 systems is being used, the vehicle owner has to pay to use the system. With the RES system, there was the $500 up front charge for the option. With the RES+, there was the $700 or $800 up front charge for the hardware plus the $80 per year subscription required to use the smart phone app to start the car. And, with the current Enform Remote Start, there is no charge for the hardware, but there is the $250 subscription that is required to use it.
If you had a Lexus vehicle with the RES+ system and if you kept it for, say, 5 years, the cost of using the system with both the key fob and the phone app would have been around $1100-1200 ($700-800 for the hardware option in the vehicle plus $400 for the 5 years worth of subscription to use the phone app). For the current Enform Remote Start, the cost to use the system for 5 years would be around $1000 (first year free plus $250 per year for the subscription for years 2-5). If you only want to use the fob option, with RES or RES+, you would have had to pay for the option when you bought the vehicle. With the Enform Remote Start, there is no cost when you buy the car, but you need the subscription to use the remote start.
So, the bottom line is that, regardless of which system, the cost over several years was going to be similar. The main difference is related to whether the cost is up front cost when you buy the car or whether it is distributed over several years via the subscription.
A number of years ago, Lexus was using the Remote Engine Start (RES). It was a about a $500 option, and it allowed for remote starting only with the key fob.
Around 2014 (varies by Lexus model), Lexus replaced the RES system with the RES+. It was about a $700-800 option, and it allowed for remote starting with either the key fob or a smart phone app. It also came with an $80 per year subscription. With the subscription, the car could be started with either the fob or the smart phone app. Without the paid subscription, key fob starting still worked, but the smart phone app starting was disabled.
Around 2015 (again, varies by model), Lexus replaced the RES+ system with the currently used Enform Remote Start. With the Enform Remote Start, Lexus began to include the hardware for the system on all vehicles at no extra charge, but it requires a paid subscription (after the first free year), to use remote start with either the fob or the smart phone app.
So, regardless of which of the 3 systems is being used, the vehicle owner has to pay to use the system. With the RES system, there was the $500 up front charge for the option. With the RES+, there was the $700 or $800 up front charge for the hardware plus the $80 per year subscription required to use the smart phone app to start the car. And, with the current Enform Remote Start, there is no charge for the hardware, but there is the $250 subscription that is required to use it.
If you had a Lexus vehicle with the RES+ system and if you kept it for, say, 5 years, the cost of using the system with both the key fob and the phone app would have been around $1100-1200 ($700-800 for the hardware option in the vehicle plus $400 for the 5 years worth of subscription to use the phone app). For the current Enform Remote Start, the cost to use the system for 5 years would be around $1000 (first year free plus $250 per year for the subscription for years 2-5). If you only want to use the fob option, with RES or RES+, you would have had to pay for the option when you bought the vehicle. With the Enform Remote Start, there is no cost when you buy the car, but you need the subscription to use the remote start.
So, the bottom line is that, regardless of which system, the cost over several years was going to be similar. The main difference is related to whether the cost is up front cost when you buy the car or whether it is distributed over several years via the subscription.
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03-16-17, 02:54 PM
#105
Pole Position
Just bought my CPO NX200T last month. My salesman tells me I get a year of enform for free. Go to set it up have only 2 months left as previous owner had used it. Call salesman back and then he back peddles on the year commitment. Shame on him and shame on me for not getting it in writing.