Originally Posted by dbiegel

Update: after viewing and test driving a bunch of vehicles including the Lexus NX and Honda CR-V Touring, we actually ended up getting a 2015 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium fully loaded w/EyeSight. We really liked the CR-V touring but the new Outback with EyeSight tech impressed me most. After test driving it, I felt it truly shined over the CR-V Touring in all the key areas such as ride quality, usable space (the cargo area is almost a foot longer than the CR-V -- and much more useful than a few extra inches in height! Cargo space specs are so misleading!), quietness, comfort, execution of controls and other details, much better AWD, better real-world MPG, and the next generation EyeSight system (only on the 2015 Legacy and Outback, not Forester) is absolutely amazing technology -- rated the best collision prevention of any automaker's system out there. Plus all the other great tech like MirrorLink, Blind Spot Detect, Rear Cross-Traffic Alert, Approach Detect, Adaptive Cruise that goes to 0 mph unlike the CRV's that only works at high speed... it even tells you if you're stopped at a light and the vehicle in front of you takes off and you're not paying attention... much better visibility throughout with transparent side mirror triangle area even... top crash test results in every way possible... etc etc. All in all it just totally impressed for the price point and I preferred it strongly to the CR-V Touring in most ways. The Lexus NX was not for us. Everything about it seemed like someone in Lexus marketing said "do whatever you can to try to make it look sporty" without understanding the consequences. It felt tiny inside even though it wasn't. Visibility poor due to the styling. Basically just came across as less usable vehicle than the Outback or CR-V, for a lot more money, and less practical due to the compromises that were made. I actually loved the styling but not enough to make up for everything else I didn't like about it. Probably a great car for others but just not for us and our young family. Anyways thanks again for all the responses, they definitely helped us in our journey.

Originally Posted by ydooby

It isn't as far-fetched as you think.

Originally Posted by spwolf

Porsche used to be in front of or near Lexus before VW take over... things can change quickly.