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Old 06-25-19 | 05:45 AM
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I apologize if this topic has been posted before. If so pls direct me to such thread. Otherwise, as I already knew about this report and took the plunge on a NX 200t F Sport, I wonder if this forum can shed some light on such protection to the SUV's Data Port?
https://www.cp24.com/news/york-polic...suvs-1.4286705

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Thanks for sharing. I'm not aware of Lexus cars being targeted specifically, but in general, it seems that "keyless" cars are quite vulnerable to electronic carjacking. The thieves try to get access to the entry code by hacking the electronic access keys (or cards), as the radio signals can be intercepted over quite some distance:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/28/e...ntl/index.html

Good countermeasures can be found here:
https://www.wikihow.com/Prevent-Keyless-Car-Theft

Up to now, I thought Lexus had a higher immunity against these frauds, at least here in Europe.
Old 06-25-19 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CareAllend
Thanks for sharing. I'm not aware of Lexus cars being targeted specifically, but in general, it seems that "keyless" cars are quite vulnerable to electronic carjacking. The thieves try to get access to the entry code by hacking the electronic access keys (or cards), as the radio signals can be intercepted over quite some distance:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/28/e...ntl/index.html

Good countermeasures can be found here:
https://www.wikihow.com/Prevent-Keyless-Car-Theft

Up to now, I thought Lexus had a higher immunity against these frauds, at least here in Europe.
Thanks! However the preventive approach I look for is a mechnical lock to the OBDII port, that would stop the access to load a new factory car to drive the car away!
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Ok, I'm just aware of this device:
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This is a better device:
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Great device! I wasn't aware so much about OBD hacking, quite worrying indeed. I just read through the installation manual: not so easy to install, but once done, seems to offer pretty good protection.

Obviously it doesn't protect against radio signal hacking of keyless access systems. This protection must be handled separately.

Next level of criminal car stealing will be by drone in front of your house
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Obviously it doesn't protect against radio signal hacking of keyless access systems. This protection must be handled separately.

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Key fob can be turned off: holding Lock button (down), pressing Unlock 2X; turning it back on by pressing any button. I have not tried this yet, meantime put them in the kitchen table and INSIDE a tin can.
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Key fob can be turned off: holding Lock button (down), pressing Unlock 2X; turning it back on by pressing any button. I have not tried this yet, meantime put them in the kitchen table and INSIDE a tin can.
Further to this, I found an article which is useful in explaining how thieves work, however it seems more of a scare monger:
https://www.wired.com/2016/03/study-...ignition-hack/

I used tin foil, the one to wrap and keep your burger/pizza warm, just double the layer to wrap my key fob and walked to the car door. The aluminum foil cover is enough to stop RF transmission that I could not open the door as usual. Un-wraping the foil at the door and soon enough, the normal opening sound/clicking were audible, doors were open.

At the risk of sounding paranoia, I lined the box/case holding the key fob with tin foil to create such Faraday cage, as it works to stop RF transmission between the car and key fob, and put this box close to the door (no need to put them in the freezer ).
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What is scaring is the fact that this hacking trick even works when you're walking, shopping or dining in a restaurant with your (unprotected) key in your pocket, if the partner of the gang is standing or sitting close to you; some friendly thieves might even try chatting with you

I even suspect the method can work over hundreds of miles with the right transmitter technology (e.g. over mobile phones) … Ok, phase delays might make this more difficult!

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Originally Posted by 16fsport2
I apologize if this topic has been posted before. If so pls direct me to such thread. Otherwise, as I already knew about this report and took the plunge on a NX 200t F Sport, I wonder if this forum can shed some light on such protection to the SUV's Data Port?
https://www.cp24.com/news/york-polic...suvs-1.4286705

Thanks!
Dave
Reviving this thread as a lot of Lexus/Toyotas are being targeted in my area, including an attempt on my RX. I was wondering if anyone found a place where you bought the OBD port blocker for your RX? I am unable to find any around me or a few performance stores. Appreciate the help!
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Old 07-19-21 | 09:34 AM
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They are not targeting the OBD port, why would they when its much easier to just do a wireless relay attack on the car. I would take preventative action and get an rfid key pouch and then not worry about the rest. If they really want it they will get it one way or another.
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For my piece of mind I use a RF blocking faraday key fob case to prevent wireless relay attack. To prevent access to the OBD port I ended up using AUTOCYB (https://autocyb.com/).
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